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Re: Oh. My. Fucking. God.
« Reply #60 on: April 20, 2008, 09:10:16 AM »
the same people think both things are wrong and the same people think that both things are ok, mostly.

i'm not sure of either since it depends on the situation. i think Roman Polanski raped that girl though and i think most 13 year olds can't give consent because they are too young and impressionable. especially when it's someone powerful that is pressuring and scaring them.
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Re: Oh. My. Fucking. God.
« Reply #61 on: April 20, 2008, 11:38:27 AM »
I, for one, do not think it's OK to have sex with a 13-yo.
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« Reply #62 on: April 20, 2008, 11:45:27 AM »
 :agreed:

let kids be young, ffs - they've plenty of time later to have that sort of responsibility.

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« Reply #63 on: April 20, 2008, 11:47:08 AM »
Precisely.

But I also think that the Polanski case is more complex than the usual party line. But then, I'm pretty cynical.
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« Reply #64 on: April 20, 2008, 12:34:26 PM »
I don't care if two 13-year-olds want to fuck each other. Some kids experiment, and by 13 most have the equipment. It's the power imbalance that seems to have caused the problem with Polanski. I don't think people should be pressured into sex through a major power imbalance regardless of their ages.
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Re: Oh. My. Fucking. God.
« Reply #65 on: April 20, 2008, 01:23:50 PM »


Having sex with a child or molesting it can sure fuck up their minds.

It can fuck up the adult's mind too.

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Re: Oh. My. Fucking. God.
« Reply #66 on: April 20, 2008, 01:24:05 PM »
Okay I'm confused. Lot of you seem to find it okay he had sex with a 13 year old but you guys didn't find it okay when grael was in a relationship with flagg and you guys called her a pedo for it. So why isn't it okay for her to date someone under 18 but it's okay for the director to have sex with someone who was 13 at the time while Grael's online bf was only 16?

Having sex with a minor under the age of consent is worse than dating one IMO.

Grael wasn't using drugs.

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Re: Oh. My. Fucking. God.
« Reply #67 on: April 20, 2008, 01:25:30 PM »
I don't care if two 13-year-olds want to fuck each other. Some kids experiment, and by 13 most have the equipment. It's the power imbalance that seems to have caused the problem with Polanski. I don't think people should be pressured into sex through a major power imbalance regardless of their ages.

I actually think that it's probably better to be
taught by someone older, the first time. Matters
of safety, as well as pleasure.

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« Reply #68 on: April 20, 2008, 01:28:00 PM »
I don't think people should be pressured into sex through a major power imbalance regardless of their ages.

good point.

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« Reply #69 on: April 20, 2008, 02:07:41 PM »
Arrrgh!!! This is awful, not only does it seem like he raped this girl but he then used the age of consent laws to make it into something lesser :headexplode:
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« Reply #70 on: April 20, 2008, 02:21:00 PM »
He raped the girl by definition. Anything sexual with a 13-yo was then (and is now?), by definition, rape.
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« Reply #71 on: April 20, 2008, 05:05:36 PM »
Arrrgh!!! This is awful, not only does it seem like he raped this girl but he then used the age of consent laws to make it into something lesser :headexplode:


Sheer brilliance.

He raped the girl by definition. Anything sexual with a 13-yo was then (and is now?), by definition, rape.

True, but the word 'statutory' inserted in their
reduces the effect, in some courts.

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« Reply #72 on: April 20, 2008, 05:09:59 PM »
she said no. it wasn't a statutory rape.
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Re: Oh. My. Fucking. God.
« Reply #73 on: April 20, 2008, 05:12:32 PM »
she said no. it wasn't a statutory rape.

That's the brilliance of it. Wish that worked in general.

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« Reply #74 on: April 20, 2008, 05:13:38 PM »
it's not brilliant it's crazy. :P
"I think everybody has an asshole component to their personality. It's just a matter of how much you indulge it. Those who do it often form a habit. So like any addiction, you have to learn to overcome it."
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