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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #210 on: July 16, 2008, 07:01:04 AM »
Is this nazi stuff all you guys ever think/talk about seems a bit obsessive.  So is there anything else in there or is this a one hit wonder. At least make a thread where it would be all in one place not scattered about in off topic places

This will probably come to America too.

Already started here and the closed circuit cameras like you guys have too.  Gee thanks for exporting your culture ::)
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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #211 on: July 16, 2008, 07:03:48 AM »
Is this nazi stuff all you guys ever think/talk about seems a bit obsessive.  So is there anything else in there or is this a one hit wonder. At least make a thread where it would be all in one place not scattered about in off topic places

This will probably come to America too.

Already started here and the closed circuit cameras like you guys have too.  Gee thanks for exporting your culture ::)

No, I meant the gang rapes and hate crimes against white people and the infringements on the freedom of speech.

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #212 on: July 16, 2008, 07:04:21 AM »
Is this nazi stuff all you guys ever think/talk about seems a bit obsessive.  So is there anything else in there or is this a one hit wonder. At least make a thread where it would be all in one place not scattered about in off topic places

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #213 on: July 16, 2008, 07:10:25 AM »
Germans have no sense of humour.

Most of German censorship can be traced back to 1945, when national-socialism was declared illegal by the allied "liberators" and every expression of German patriotism or sympathy for Hitler was smashed down by various means (from indoctrination and loss of civil rights to imprisonment and execution). Germans were taught to hate their heritage and to be ashamed of being German. As such, the German spirit was broken like a twig and corrupt "democratic" leaders have continued this condition ever since.

Nah, its nothing to do with censorship, their stuff was boring before the war, or at least what I slept through in my German lesson.

Whoops, I mentioned the war...


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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #214 on: July 16, 2008, 07:21:44 AM »
Most of German censorship can be traced back to 1945, when national-socialism was declared illegal by the allied "liberators" and every expression of German patriotism or sympathy for Hitler was smashed down by various means (from indoctrination and loss of civil rights to imprisonment and execution). Germans were taught to hate their heritage and to be ashamed of being German. As such, the German spirit was broken like a twig and corrupt "democratic" leaders have continued this condition ever since.

Nah, its nothing to do with censorship, their stuff was boring before the war, or at least what I slept through in my German lesson.

Did you compare with non-German humor from before the war? During the last 100 years, humor has become increasingly more sophisticated all over Western culture. I've seen Dutch, German, French, Russian, British, American and other cartoons from the era 1900-1950 and I would say they all are quite primitive in comparison with modern standards of humor.

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #215 on: July 16, 2008, 07:28:16 AM »
Most of German censorship can be traced back to 1945, when national-socialism was declared illegal by the allied "liberators" and every expression of German patriotism or sympathy for Hitler was smashed down by various means (from indoctrination and loss of civil rights to imprisonment and execution). Germans were taught to hate their heritage and to be ashamed of being German. As such, the German spirit was broken like a twig and corrupt "democratic" leaders have continued this condition ever since.

Nah, its nothing to do with censorship, their stuff was boring before the war, or at least what I slept through in my German lesson.

Did you compare with non-German humor from before the war? During the last 100 years, humor has become increasingly more sophisticated all over Western culture. I've seen Dutch, German, French, Russian, British, American and other cartoons from the era 1900-1950 and I would say they all are quite primitive in comparison with modern standards of humor.
I did. But most of the best humour evolved in the 60's, a full 15 years after the war ended. By that point it had very little to do with allies, and more to do with the German language structure and phraseology , which constricts the development of humour. It is why most German comedy is incredibly slapstick.

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #216 on: July 16, 2008, 07:32:24 AM »
I did. But most of the best humour evolved in the 60's, a full 15 years after the war ended. By that point it had very little to do with allies, and more to do with the German language structure and phraseology , which constricts the development of humour. It is why most German comedy is incredibly slapstick.

I understand how language structure and phraseology can limit the use of puns, but can you explain how it limits other types of humor? For example, I don't see how sarcasm (a very popular type of humor today) can be limited by language structure and phraseology.

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #217 on: July 16, 2008, 07:39:57 AM »
Is this nazi stuff all you guys ever think/talk about seems a bit obsessive.  So is there anything else in there or is this a one hit wonder. At least make a thread where it would be all in one place not scattered about in off topic places

This will probably come to America too.

Already started here and the closed circuit cameras like you guys have too.  Gee thanks for exporting your culture ::)

No, I meant the gang rapes and hate crimes against white people and the infringements on the freedom of speech.

So your going to send us that too wow your generous.  We have it written in the Constitution to have freedom of speech along with right to  bear arms they haven't gotten rid of the guns yet and I believe they have been working it for a long time so speech seems safe for now.  Also why is gang rape always used to scare people especially when its interracial it gets old.  Did you know they used that very excuse to ban the drugs that are illegal here back in the early 1900's. It's a scare tactic and I don't think it's as common as you make it out to be
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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #218 on: July 16, 2008, 07:43:50 AM »
Gang rape is not that common, no, but when it is committed, it is scarcely committed by white people of European descendent.

No, I didn't know that drugs were banned using gang rape scare.

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #219 on: July 16, 2008, 07:45:33 AM »
So your going to send us that too wow your generous.

Don't shoot the messenger.

We have it written in the Constitution to have freedom of speech along with right to  bear arms they haven't gotten rid of the guns yet and I believe they have been working it for a long time so speech seems safe for now.

Ever heard of the Patriot Act? In the name of anti-terrorist legislation, the neo-cons have been attacking the US constitution and some have even suggested to make some forms of torture(that are already used in off-shore US military prisons) legal. I don't think it will take long before your sacred constitution becomes just another rag of paper.

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #220 on: July 16, 2008, 07:51:27 AM »
I think there are already infringements done to the 4th and 5th Amendments and that that the 1th, 2nd and 8th are endangered.

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #221 on: July 16, 2008, 07:51:43 AM »
So your going to send us that too wow your generous.

Don't shoot the messenger.

We have it written in the Constitution to have freedom of speech along with right to  bear arms they haven't gotten rid of the guns yet and I believe they have been working it for a long time so speech seems safe for now.

Ever heard of the Patriot Act? In the name of anti-terrorist legislation, the neo-cons have been attacking the US constitution and some have even suggested to make some forms of torture(that are already used in off-shore US military prisons) legal. I don't think it will take long before your sacred constitution becomes just another rag of paper.

But we are still ahead of you.  I don't like the patriot act myself but it deals more with the right to privacy than free speech.  So how was torture used in the third reich  was it wrong then or just now that others want to use it
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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #222 on: July 16, 2008, 07:58:35 AM »
But we are still ahead of you.  I don't like the patriot act myself but it deals more with the right to privacy than free speech.

It is the very definition of the word "terrorism" that makes laws such as the patriot act an enfringement of free speech.

So how was torture used in the third reich  was it wrong then or just now that others want to use it

I've done a lot of research on various aspects of national-socialist Germany (such as national-socialist ideology, the Holocaust myth, NS antisemitism, enfringements of freedom of speech, etc.) but the use of torture is not one of them. My knowledge on this specific area is quite limited. If you know any sources on this topic that you can recommend, feel free to mention them.

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #223 on: July 16, 2008, 08:03:06 AM »
Most of German censorship can be traced back to 1945, when national-socialism was declared illegal by the allied "liberators" and every expression of German patriotism or sympathy for Hitler was smashed down by various means (from indoctrination and loss of civil rights to imprisonment and execution). Germans were taught to hate their heritage and to be ashamed of being German. As such, the German spirit was broken like a twig and corrupt "democratic" leaders have continued this condition ever since.

Nah, its nothing to do with censorship, their stuff was boring before the war, or at least what I slept through in my German lesson.

Did you compare with non-German humor from before the war? During the last 100 years, humor has become increasingly more sophisticated all over Western culture. I've seen Dutch, German, French, Russian, British, American and other cartoons from the era 1900-1950 and I would say they all are quite primitive in comparison with modern standards of humor.

Why don't you take your soapbox and your crappy theories over to Wankplanet so you can bore those arseholes to death? Or have you already done that and you've started on us.....

Fuck, I heard you even drove some of those bastards on AFF to tears with this shit. One can only take so much bullshit about the war and gaybashing for one day......  :yawn: :violin: :yawn:

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Re: Wrong Planet.
« Reply #224 on: July 16, 2008, 08:11:40 AM »
Do my sources matter? I believe you will just say they are propaganda spread by the allies after the war.  I could look some up later if you want but like I said does it matter
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