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Trekkie terror
« on: January 07, 2008, 07:01:35 PM »
I said I'd start a thread about the hazards of being interested in Star Trek, so here we go...

The obvious is going on and on about it when nobody else is interested.  That applies to any obsession, however.  The solution is to seek out others who share that interest.  This is where the real hazard begins.

There exists a complete, decades-old subculture of Trekkies.  I'm sure you've all at least heard of the conventions, where Trekkies will travel hundreds of miles to meet their favorite actors in person, get an autograph, and get told to "get a life".  (Kidding about the "get a life" part.  However, different cast members attitudes vary toward the fans.) 

There are also literally hundreds of local clubs for Trekkies, that meet IRL on a regular basis.  If you're a Trekkie, you can check those out, but you won't know if it's a good one or a bad one until after you've met its members and have known them for a while.  Most of these local groups are chapters of a handful of umbrella organizations of international or regional scope.  The local groups call themselves "ships" and have names like "USS Something" or "IKV Whatever".  (The IKV's are Klingon-themed clubs.)  At this point, I will not mention names of specific local groups or umbrella organizations.  The local groups typically meet on a regular basis, go on road trips (to conventions and other places/events of interest), and support charities. 

That all sounds like fun, and it often is, but here's the problem... politics... nasty, ugly, cutthroat organizational politics.  There are many within these organizations who have a highly inflated ego &/or a pathological need for control.  Because of them, you'll be in one of those groups and forget that it was originally just a group for people who happen to like the same TV show.  They'll get to be like some sort of dysfunctional fraternal organization. 

In a large urban area, there could be as many as a dozen chapters of the same umbrella organization.  They end up serving different parts of town, but the real reason there are so many is because of political turmoil.  I've heard of people founding a chapter, and then having their chapter break up and re-form without them.  That's people with an egotistical need to be in control of something, but little or no leadership skills.

I've also seen alot of people acting all friendly with each other in-person, and then verbally hammering each other behind each other's backs.  You might go to a meeting and listen to a 45-minute rant about what a dumbass someone a hundred miles away in another chapter is.  I've heard their online forums, IRC's and other channels of electronic communication can get pretty vicious, too.  I've had my chapter's president tell me I should register on those forums so I could keep up with what's going on.  I think I'll pass, because I'd prefer not to get caught up in that shit.

Over the past 14 years, I've been involved with four different Trekkie groups (three of them in the same umbrella group) in three different towns, and also another group that's just a science fiction group.  Of the four Trekkie groups, the one that was not in the same umbrella group as the others seemed to be the most laid-back and in it just for the fun.  I've been the happiest with the group that's just a sci-fi group.  Whereas the Trekkie groups have volumes upon volumes of rules and bylaws, the just-a-scifi group keeps it simple.  If there's any turmoil in that group, I'm not aware of it and don't want to be aware of it either.  They seem to get things done without any bullshit, like operate a successful sci-fi convention in my town, which they have been doing a damn good job of for over 20 years.

Here's where an Aspie really needs to be careful.  Trekkie groups (and other groups associated with the overall sci-fi/fantasy/horror/gaming/etc. culture) are often a refuge for those people who don't fit in elsewhere, but the more social people are still very much in charge, and there are many of them who will take advantage of you if you're not careful.

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Re: Trekkie terror
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 07:06:22 PM »
 :laugh:

Or, in other words, aspie forum drama in real life.

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Re: Trekkie terror
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2008, 07:08:37 PM »
Ever hear ookla the mok?

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Re: Trekkie terror
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2008, 07:49:03 PM »
I tried to join a Star Trek club over in Melbourne but every time I rang them they were not answering. I gave up in the end. I was hoping they would send me stuff.

I have also wished that an Australian Star Trek or other sci-fi magazine would be available but I have never found anything. Because you can order cool stuff from those magazines, it would be easier to order in Australia.

They don't have Star Trek conventions in little isolated Perth either.
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Re: Trekkie terror
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2008, 08:52:31 PM »
I never liked groups so it was never a problem for me but I had friends who where into this stuff lots of small group politics yuck :eh: .  Conventions can be fun though
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Re: Trekkie terror
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2008, 08:56:37 PM »
Been involved in running a number of cons,
myself. Not trekkies, so much (though the
first one had the guy who played bailey
on star trek as a guest, I believe).

Politics wasn't too annoying, at all the
rest, as they were school events. And
there were elected officers. While it meant that
things got fucked up, it also meant that
annoying people didn't get elected.
(I never ran for office - just got appointed.
I usually wasn't a student).

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Re: Trekkie terror
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2008, 09:02:09 PM »
Been involved in running a number of cons,
myself. Not trekkies, so much (though the
first one had the guy who played bailey
on star trek as a guest, I believe).

Politics wasn't too annoying, at all the
rest, as they were school events. And
there were elected officers. While it meant that
things got fucked up, it also meant that
annoying people didn't get elected.
(I never ran for office - just got appointed.
I usually wasn't a student).

No offense but from you the poll man :laugh:
"Eat it up.  Wear it out.  Make it do or do without." 

'People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it.'
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Re: Trekkie terror
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2008, 09:10:22 PM »
Oh, there was at least one year,
where a complete ass was running
the show. I tried to keep him from
winning.

But, the fact that there was constantly
new blood, and that there were elections,
meant that it took more than that to ruin
the club.

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Re: Trekkie terror
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2008, 10:40:38 PM »
I've volunteered for conventions, but never gotten high enough up in the hierarchy to really encounter petty politics. In my experience of small special interest groups, it's a pain in the ass to find anyone willing to run for office or take responsibility for much of anything. Shame all that power hunger is getting misdirected.
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Re: Trekkie terror
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2008, 11:15:55 PM »
it's a pain in the ass to find anyone willing to run for office or take responsibility for much of anything.

 :indeed:

One year, we elected a toaster oven
club president. No would would run against
a real ass. Ended up being one of the events
which got the original club disbanded, BY the
ass's instigation, so that he could form a new one.

We handled shit okay, on our own, but got fucked
by exterior forces.

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Re: Trekkie terror
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2008, 12:03:13 AM »
I'm a member of an Online Star Trek Role Play organisation, called UCIP, it has it's fair share of politics and powermongering. I've even been a part of it at one stage or two. But now I just "SIM".

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Re: Trekkie terror
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2008, 03:21:32 AM »
I absolutely love TNG episode "The Offspring".  Very aspie!!!!

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Re: Trekkie terror
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2008, 12:18:16 PM »
The cinema where I work used to host a Trek convention a couple of times a year. Then people found better things to do and now we are too big for them.
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Re: Trekkie terror
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2008, 01:00:33 PM »
Too big huh, but big enough to handle all those Ingmar Bergman fans :laugh:
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Re: Trekkie terror
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2008, 01:07:28 PM »
Too big huh, but big enough to handle all those Ingmar Bergman fans :laugh:

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Silly, isn't it? The Trekkies didn't have the money.
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