The only ones I can feel sorry for are the ones who are left behind.
Cal: 1. Stupid? Things can change and get better in your life. If you work hard to improve, so can the situation and circumstances around you. Suicide is giving up and not trying to change. Something great could be just around the corner if one is walking in the right direction.
You're considering this from your own reasons for suicide only.
Let's take Star's reasons: she wanted to be with Michael. How
the fuck else is she going to be with a dead person? Or, my
uncle: he killed himself to keep from being financially ruined,
and having his family suffer.
2. Done out of love for some person she probably knew for less than a couple years. She left behind family members who knew her for her entire life. My parents would be in horrible shape if I succeeded in killing myself. To not think of what it would do to the people who still live, is selfish.
To leave someone suffering alone in the afterlife may
be as well. It's all a matter of intentions. If her family is
like you, they'll get over it.
3. My life has been pretty fucked up before and I have contemplated suicide many times. The other side could actually be worse than what it is here. The pain and suffering of life can be appreciated after a while. If you are saying that you know what it is like to be dead, then you are full of shit.
I don't know what it's like to be alive then either. Perceptions
are all that we have. I'm fairly convinced that I've peeked over.
A bit more (but not entirely by any mind), that there is some
truth to the 'reality' that we experience in our daily lives. I do
have to crap though.
4. Nobody really has a clue of what they will face when they die. The may claim otherwise, but that is up to faith which is basically delusion. People who kill themselves are missing out on the rest of their life, who knows what great things would have been in store if they just held on for a bit longer?
ALL of our perceptions are faith. What I've seen
I've seen. And I trust them with the same essential
type of trust (though slightly weaker) as I do the cars
I see on the road.
5. Situation has everything to do with it. My friend's father will have to eat out of a tube for the rest of his life, can't talk and is barely strong enough to even walk. If he can stay strong and live, then some spoiled ass teenagers sure as hell can. I would wager my father was raised in 10 times worse a situation and he survived and now thrives. They were just weak, and their end suits them in that regard.
Since you seem devoted to the whole suffering
issue, I'll address it here. WHY should one person
suffer some small horror, just because someone else
is foolish enough to choose a greater one? Though,
frankly, I think this is exactly where she was foolish.
But, I'm helping her as much as I can.
Tired of being nice about this kind of shit. She wasted potential, just like many of stupid people do all the time. My cousin killed himself 8 years ago, and he wasted his potential as well. He was facing a 30 year prison sentence though, something these fucking kids have no clue about.
Again, this is all on your limited (as are everyone's) perceptions.
Be open that others see other things - delusions or not.
phobia.