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Re: Evolution: the fight
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2007, 12:40:46 AM »
Was he stockpiling old bombers?

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Re: Evolution: the fight
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2007, 01:02:53 AM »
No, I think tracer bullets, which are illegal in California. Here's an old article about it: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=13946 . Truthfully I don't know what was going on with the bible thing, which was supposedly the real reason they kept him in jail so long. I think they had a boat that they were trying to disassemble and turn into a plane. Whatever it was, it clearly wasn't going to happen.
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Re: Evolution: the fight
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2007, 01:14:42 AM »
Wow. Not sure that jail is the right
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Re: Evolution: the fight
« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2007, 01:52:44 AM »
God Pwns.

i'm in the God Pwns camp.

your silly arguments can't sway my conviction!

Ignoring for the moment that my only partial comprehension of the word 'pwns' makes this statement difficult, I am wondering what it is that is threatened here.  How can any argument for or against evolution be relevant to faith in the power of G-d?  The transcendent can be experienced in countless ways, and no arguments for evolutionism have anything whatever to do with faith in G-d and her ultimate existence, goodness, etc.  Real faith should be strong enough to tolerate new facts; after all, if G-d created the world, those facts are hers as well.

On the other hand, if faith in G-d is so fragile as to be tied completely to ancient writings, to the extent that a belief in her forces the faithful to pluck out their eyes and practically lobotomize themselves, well...  I'd say that kind of faith needs to die.  And eventually, when we (as a society and a world) grow tired of the blind and dumb leading us to oblivion, mayhap we can get all of those so-called 'faithful' to pack up and move to a remote island where they can practice their primitive rituals without harming the innocent.   :green:

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Re: Evolution: the fight
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2007, 06:08:39 AM »
My uncle's a creationist. Last time I saw him I got sucked into a two hour discussion on it because I was too polite to be honest. Incidentally, he was also arrested for stockpiling weapons in the desert or something... I think his ultimate plan was to fly over Sudan and drop bibles to try to get the Muslims to convert. Made the papers and everything.

My uncle pays for bibles to be translated into Arabic and sent to the Muslim hoards, as well as donates to general missionary work.  He gives away tens of thousands of pounds each year.  Also, his car died recently and he needed a new one, so he asked God what to do, and God told him which car to get, in the literal "THAT CAR OVER THERE" sense.  Fortunately it wasn't an SUV; just some second hand thing he got for £7,000.
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Re: Evolution: the fight
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2007, 06:25:40 AM »
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Re: Evolution: the fight
« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2007, 08:41:53 AM »
My uncle's a creationist. Last time I saw him I got sucked into a two hour discussion on it because I was too polite to be honest. Incidentally, he was also arrested for stockpiling weapons in the desert or something... I think his ultimate plan was to fly over Sudan and drop bibles to try to get the Muslims to convert. Made the papers and everything.

My uncle pays for bibles to be translated into Arabic and sent to the Muslim hoards, as well as donates to general missionary work.  He gives away tens of thousands of pounds each year.  Also, his car died recently and he needed a new one, so he asked God what to do, and God told him which car to get, in the literal "THAT CAR OVER THERE" sense.  Fortunately it wasn't an SUV; just some second hand thing he got for £7,000.

So what make and model does God prefer just in case I get in an accident I want him to look kindly on me ::)
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Re: Evolution: the fight
« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2007, 10:10:09 AM »
My uncle's a creationist. Last time I saw him I got sucked into a two hour discussion on it because I was too polite to be honest. Incidentally, he was also arrested for stockpiling weapons in the desert or something... I think his ultimate plan was to fly over Sudan and drop bibles to try to get the Muslims to convert. Made the papers and everything.

My uncle pays for bibles to be translated into Arabic and sent to the Muslim hoards, as well as donates to general missionary work.  He gives away tens of thousands of pounds each year.  Also, his car died recently and he needed a new one, so he asked God what to do, and God told him which car to get, in the literal "THAT CAR OVER THERE" sense.  Fortunately it wasn't an SUV; just some second hand thing he got for £7,000.

So what make and model does God prefer just in case I get in an accident I want him to look kindly on me ::)

I didn't pay that much attention, but it'll be some pretty ordinary, utilitarian car, judging by my uncle's tastes.
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14:11 - Peter5930: So, she thought I was your lover and that I was sending you a box full of sex toys, and that you wanted to move to Glasgow to be with me?

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Re: Evolution: the fight
« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2007, 10:13:48 AM »
What started the moment of The Big Bang?

We can not go back to the very moment of The Big Bang when it started. We can only go back just before The Big Bang started.


What started the moment of Life on Earth?

Can We yet start that moment of Life when it began on Earth?

Has science yet started Life, or created Life, or a new species of Life?

Science can only enhance existing Life.

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Re: Evolution: the fight
« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2007, 10:38:46 AM »
What started the moment of The Big Bang?

We can not go back to the very moment of The Big Bang when it started. We can only go back just before The Big Bang started.


What started the moment of Life on Earth?

Can We yet start that moment of Life when it began on Earth?

Has science yet started Life, or created Life, or a new species of Life?

Science can only enhance existing Life.



Just like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie pop the world my never know :green:


No one said you don't have to have faith in science just not as much as you do with religion
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Re: Evolution: the fight
« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2007, 10:44:13 AM »
My uncle's a creationist. Last time I saw him I got sucked into a two hour discussion on it because I was too polite to be honest. Incidentally, he was also arrested for stockpiling weapons in the desert or something... I think his ultimate plan was to fly over Sudan and drop bibles to try to get the Muslims to convert. Made the papers and everything.

My uncle pays for bibles to be translated into Arabic and sent to the Muslim hoards, as well as donates to general missionary work.  He gives away tens of thousands of pounds each year.  Also, his car died recently and he needed a new one, so he asked God what to do, and God told him which car to get, in the literal "THAT CAR OVER THERE" sense.  Fortunately it wasn't an SUV; just some second hand thing he got for £7,000.

So what make and model does God prefer just in case I get in an accident I want him to look kindly on me ::)

I didn't pay that much attention, but it'll be some pretty ordinary, utilitarian car, judging by my uncle's tastes.

I guess God has different tastes around here the preachers all drive luxury cars :o
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Re: Evolution: the fight
« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2007, 11:30:10 AM »
What started the moment of The Big Bang?

We can not go back to the very moment of The Big Bang when it started. We can only go back just before The Big Bang started.


What started the moment of Life on Earth?

Can We yet start that moment of Life when it began on Earth?

Has science yet started Life, or created Life, or a new species of Life?

Science can only enhance existing Life.



Just like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie pop the world my never know :green:


No one said you don't have to have faith in science just not as much as you do with religion
It was meant to be taken seriously.
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Re: Evolution: the fight
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2007, 11:42:33 AM »
What started the moment of The Big Bang?

We can not go back to the very moment of The Big Bang when it started. We can only go back just before The Big Bang started.


What started the moment of Life on Earth?

Can We yet start that moment of Life when it began on Earth?

Has science yet started Life, or created Life, or a new species of Life?

Science can only enhance existing Life.



Just like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie pop the world my never know :green:


No one said you don't have to have faith in science just not as much as you do with religion
It was meant to be taken seriously.

It was there are just some things I feel will never be adequately explained and will always live in that world of faith. The further scientists push there will always be the unknown ahead of them. All you have to do is decide where to place your faith I go with science.
"Eat it up.  Wear it out.  Make it do or do without." 

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Re: Evolution: the fight
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2007, 12:44:35 PM »
What started the moment of The Big Bang?

We can not go back to the very moment of The Big Bang when it started. We can only go back just before The Big Bang started.


What started the moment of Life on Earth?

Can We yet start that moment of Life when it began on Earth?

Has science yet started Life, or created Life, or a new species of Life?

Science can only enhance existing Life.



Just like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie pop the world my never know :green:


No one said you don't have to have faith in science just not as much as you do with religion
It was meant to be taken seriously.

It was there are just some things I feel will never be adequately explained and will always live in that world of faith. The further scientists push there will always be the unknown ahead of them. All you have to do is decide where to place your faith I go with science.
To Me it not just about Religion or Faith nor about just Science either. It is a combination of both.
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Re: Evolution: the fight
« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2007, 01:27:51 PM »
What started the moment of The Big Bang?

We can not go back to the very moment of The Big Bang when it started. We can only go back just before The Big Bang started.


What started the moment of Life on Earth?

Can We yet start that moment of Life when it began on Earth?

Has science yet started Life, or created Life, or a new species of Life?

Science can only enhance existing Life.



Just like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie pop the world my never know :green:


No one said you don't have to have faith in science just not as much as you do with religion
It was meant to be taken seriously.

It was there are just some things I feel will never be adequately explained and will always live in that world of faith. The further scientists push there will always be the unknown ahead of them. All you have to do is decide where to place your faith I go with science.
To Me it not just about Religion or Faith nor about just Science either. It is a combination of both.

I respect that.  I have ad too many problems with Religion in my life to put much faith into it and also have a degree in science so that's where I go
"Eat it up.  Wear it out.  Make it do or do without." 

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