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« Reply #90 on: September 11, 2006, 05:58:03 AM »
Yeah, why not, I'll jot it down to remind me! >:D

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« Reply #91 on: September 11, 2006, 04:51:10 PM »
What is your opinion of the person centred Approach in nursing theory seeing as it is an americain philosophy

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« Reply #92 on: September 11, 2006, 06:15:33 PM »
Give me some time to think about that, it's been awhile since I even heard about that theory or even gave it a passing thought!

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« Reply #93 on: September 13, 2006, 09:56:29 PM »
What do You like like about Intensity2 ozymandias?
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« Reply #94 on: September 14, 2006, 02:49:41 PM »
What is your opinion of the person centred Approach in nursing theory seeing as it is an americain philosophy

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OK, I did a review of the theory, but as I see it (and please correct me if I'm off target on this..it's been a long time.)

The person or client centered approach to nursing theory is the nurse, patient/client and carer or other caregiver combine to focus on the specific needs of the cliet/patient as they are the ones in the best position to know what they want.

In a nutshell, I have a mixed opinion about this, but with a strong leaning toward favoring the system.  The weakness in it, is that it assumes the patient will do what it takes to cooperate with the care plan established for that patient.  The strength of it is that the patient has control over his or her care and that does favor cooperation/compliance.  In my career, I have found that a majority of my patients do better emotionally when they have as much control as possible and that makes for a much better relationship and positive feelings.  Face it, medical problems like cancer, aids, or other diseases or problems can leave a patient feeling powerless, hopeless, angry, depressed, etc.  It's like all of sudden your humanity and individuality are stripped away quickly or slowly.  By giving as much control as possible, dignity, freedom of any kind, and choice, contribute to a better climate for recovery or a dignified end of life scenario.  (I am a geriatric/hospice specialist.)

The weakness, is the clients own personality or desires.  Some patients will not do a damned thing to improve their health or living situation.  I had one person refuse all rehab to build up their strength so that they could go home, they would literally sit in the kitchen chair all day long from when the nursing staff got them up, to when the nursing staff put them to bed, in their own home.  They expected everything to be done for them.  The nursing staff were limited in how much care they could give and it was a stretch to even get twice a day visits as it was.  I can't be more specific, but, they refused to do anything for themselves.  I'v seen emphysema patients on oxygen continue to light up their cigarettes despite all the warning about smoking with oxygen going.  Cystic Fibrosis patients smoking, etc etc etc.  And then there's the dysfunctional family situations!  OY!  I can't go into more detail then that!

Now some patients do have reasons for uncooperative behavior either because of strokes, severe mental health issues or brain injuries.  So something has to be crafted around each patients particular needs, it can be difficult, sometimes damned near impossible.  But over all the majority does seem to work out!

So my opinion is that it usually works out when everything falls into place!  I do like it.

Anyway, I hope that is what you were looking for in a discussion, if not clarify where I didn't meet that goal!

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« Reply #95 on: September 14, 2006, 02:52:57 PM »
What do You like like about Intensity2 ozymandias?

It's fun and it's nice to be able to let things rip, when my mind needs to do that!  I'm kind of a natural goof ball and I tend to not take myself soooooooooo seriously!  Well at least most of the time!  It's nice to not be PC all the time!

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« Reply #96 on: September 14, 2006, 05:30:07 PM »
Nursing theory?
WTF?
Did you know that I'm a nurse too and actually am taking a fucking class in nursing theory right now??  And I hate it.

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« Reply #97 on: September 14, 2006, 05:55:25 PM »
Nursing theory?
WTF?
Did you know that I'm a nurse too and actually am taking a fucking class in nursing theory right now??  And I hate it.

Sorry to hear that, but, I was responding to a question by Praetor!  As a rule I don't give a bloody fucking shit about theory's!  I just want to do my job and be able to sleep at night knowing that I did just that, and made somebody's life a little bit easier and less painful.

What my main problem is, the political bullshit of the medical facilities and social climbing hierarchy that seems to be prevalent among  a lot of my "co-workers".

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« Reply #98 on: September 14, 2006, 05:57:27 PM »
Yeah but nursing theory's just so obscure - it seemed weird to have somebody ask that question.  Still am puzzled.  Sorry to hear about the politics.  That's the main reason I'm not currently working.

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« Reply #99 on: September 14, 2006, 06:38:23 PM »
Yeah but nursing theory's just so obscure - it seemed weird to have somebody ask that question.  Still am puzzled.  Sorry to hear about the politics.  That's the main reason I'm not currently working.

Not really weird, consider that he's from the UK and the socialized medicine system that they have there.  The article that refreshed my memory about the theory was from Canada!  Socialized medicine in the shadow of the USA's Free for all enterprise system.  The theories are obscure and only a nursing school would push it as a topic of a class.   Basically, it was a topic that once the class was over and I learned it, decided to forget it since it didn't apply to me IRL.

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« Reply #100 on: September 14, 2006, 10:13:46 PM »
Where do You see Intensity2 in six months?
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« Reply #101 on: September 15, 2006, 05:57:03 AM »
To be honest..........I don't even think about that.  Where Intensity is in six months, is where it is!  I am optimistic that things will go well!

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« Reply #102 on: September 15, 2006, 08:02:52 AM »
Yeah but nursing theory's just so obscure - it seemed weird to have somebody ask that question.  Still am puzzled.  Sorry to hear about the politics.  That's the main reason I'm not currently working.

Im slagging off person centred approach so I wanted to know what a Yank thought of their own countries philosophy.

I would bear in mind if you have been trainned in adult/general nursing that despite my title as a nurse student i am not neccesarily learning and doing the things you did in your trainning or do now in your practice because im RNLD not RNG
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« Reply #103 on: September 15, 2006, 10:04:21 AM »
Yeah but nursing theory's just so obscure - it seemed weird to have somebody ask that question.  Still am puzzled.  Sorry to hear about the politics.  That's the main reason I'm not currently working.

Im slagging off person centred approach so I wanted to know what a Yank thought of their own countries philosophy.

I would bear in mind if you have been trainned in adult/general nursing that despite my title as a nurse student i am not neccesarily learning and doing the things you did in your trainning or do now in your practice because im RNLD not RNG

Basically, the philosophy of a nursing student is to do everything your told to do by the teacher and then after you graduate relearn everything, or just about everything, according to the rules of the real world.  Somethings are carved in stone, like infection control and safety obviously.  But basically you discard everything that doesn't apply to your particular situation.  Like care plans, I can whip up a real, nifty one that has all the blah, blah, blah,  BUT, then someone will come along and change a huge section of it.  So rather than spend my precious patient time doing a big care plan, I'll stick to the basics of the case and let others modify to their hearts content.

Nursing school, IMO, presents nursing if we lived in an ideal world, small nurse to patient ratio's, Doctor's as Lords of all creation, nurses as all friendly and helpful and everything you need to help the patient get better.  I was in the medical field as a nursing assistant for years before I started my first job as a nurse, so I was fairly well versed about the "real world".  But, I'v seen young nursing students "crash" when they hit the wall of reality!  :(  The phrase, "Nurses eat their young!" is all too truthful!

By the way, what does RNLD and RNG mean?

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« Reply #104 on: September 19, 2006, 07:11:25 PM »
Bad day Ozy? You seem unusually full of piss and vinegar tonight mate.  :-\