CALLED DAWKIN'S BLUFF!

[Kosmonaut]

 :lol:
I would be whining too if i had to show a group of students around.
I was introduced to such a group once, it was a surprise attack. I was asked what i thought about the place, i said - don't come here it's shit.

[morthaur]

I went to a seminar last night where Dawkins was reading from his book.   All the way through, Christians were tearing ofF their crosses and beads and throwing them away while Dawkins cheered then for seeing reason.  However, I jUSt sat through it with a smug smile on my face, waiting to drop my bomb that would defeat him utterley for the last time. .....

This is kind of puerile.  It is entirely obvious from the way 'The G-d Delusion' is written that it is not addressed to sincere believers.  He does seem to hope that they will read it and wake up to the real world, but he has almost no grasp of the religious mentality and consequently fails in every way to address their questions and concerns.

In my opinion, anyone sick enough to need a sense of certainty about the universe and their place in it is better off with a religion.  I only wish they would update their myths to take better accounting of the world as we now know it, which is infinitely more grand, mysterious, and beautiful than that attributed to the Hebrew G-d.  It seems to me entirely possible to view the world with a sense of religious reverence and wonder, and even a touch of the truly spiritual, without needing to keep oneself in an arrested state of mediaeval idiocy.

...he just smacks a bit too much of the crusader, for my tastes.

I am a bit torn on this point.  I entirely agree that he can seem far too forceful in his argumentation, but I suppose he feels it is necessary to counterbalance the all-too-familiar crusading from the religious camp.  And it is not as though any of the positions which he champions are controversial: biological evolution has been proven and demonstrable fact for half a century, and continuing to deny it is nothing short of moronic.  If we, as a society, are supposed to allow for a crusader mentality to be appropriated by those who wish to put out their own eyes and live in a fantasy world, I can't see that we can sustain any real objection to Dawkin's particularly bombastic rhetoric and oversimplification.

[Christopher McCandless]

:lol:
I would be whining too if i had to show a group of students around.
I was introduced to such a group once, it was a surprise attack. I was asked what i thought about the place, i said - don't come here it's shit.

Lol, when i went to Bristol they were all trying to bum me. Oxford on the other hand, they seemed really miserable.

[Callaway]

I downloaded The God Delusion and am listening to it at work...  man what a pompous asshole.

He is a proffessor at Awksfawd. Many of them are like that.

Oh, for crying out loud, Hadron. If that's your opinion of Oxford why the heck did you put it down as your first chioce?

*cough* sour grapes *cough*

 

[Walkie]

I downloaded The God Delusion and am listening to it at work...  man what a pompous asshole.

He is a proffessor at Awksfawd. Many of them are like that.

Oh, for crying out loud, Hadron. If that's your opinion of Oxford why the heck did you put it down as your first chioce?

*cough* sour grapes *cough*

 

Funny you should think that, Callaway That's just what I was thinking.

Heck, Hadron, you'll be turning into Aspieknee at this rate. *wince*. Seriously.

[The_P]

:lol:
I would be whining too if i had to show a group of students around.
I was introduced to such a group once, it was a surprise attack. I was asked what i thought about the place, i said - don't come here it's shit.

Lol, when i went to Bristol they were all trying to bum me. Oxford on the other hand, they seemed really miserable.

Oh gee, Hardon must be hawt stuff.

[duncvis]

I downloaded The God Delusion and am listening to it at work...  man what a pompous asshole.

He is a proffessor at Awksfawd. Many of them are like that.

Oh, for crying out loud, Hadron. If that's your opinion of Oxford why the heck did you put it down as your first chioce?

*cough* sour grapes *cough*

 

Funny you should think that, Callaway That's just what I was thinking.

Heck, Hadron, you'll be turning into Aspieknee at this rate. *wince*. Seriously.

Please nobody tell Aspieknee about this site. 

[Christopher McCandless]

I downloaded The God Delusion and am listening to it at work...  man what a pompous asshole.

He is a proffessor at Awksfawd. Many of them are like that.

Oh, for crying out loud, Hadron. If that's your opinion of Oxford why the heck did you put it down as your first chioce?

*cough* sour grapes *cough*

 

Funny you should think that, Callaway That's just what I was thinking.

Heck, Hadron, you'll be turning into Aspieknee at this rate. *wince*. Seriously.

Please nobody tell Aspieknee about this site. 

Who is Aspieknee?

[Dexter Morgan]

All religions are not bad, just the ones based in antiquated principles.

[Pyraxis]

It seems to me entirely possible to view the world with a sense of religious reverence and wonder, and even a touch of the truly spiritual, without needing to keep oneself in an arrested state of mediaeval idiocy.

  Nicely put.

[Callaway]

I downloaded The God Delusion and am listening to it at work...  man what a pompous asshole.

He is a proffessor at Awksfawd. Many of them are like that.

Oh, for crying out loud, Hadron. If that's your opinion of Oxford why the heck did you put it down as your first chioce?

*cough* sour grapes *cough*

 

Funny you should think that, Callaway That's just what I was thinking.

Heck, Hadron, you'll be turning into Aspieknee at this rate. *wince*. Seriously.

Please nobody tell Aspieknee about this site. 

Who is Aspieknee?

I'm not telling you.

*Thinks of puppy dog eyes*

OK, he's someone who always has to have the last word, no matter what, and he posts in red.  Most annoying.

[renaeden]

There was a lot of other lazy bastards there when i went.

All the people showing us around had a book stuffed up their nose, and were whining about how much work they had to do. Poor NT's and their lack of an eidetic memory...

And thus sayeth the lord... of sweet fuck-all.

You dont think I might know my stuff just a little on this one.

Not if you are saying all autistics have eidetic memory. Because they don't.

You put NTs down and you try to act like one at the same time. That is not logical.

[Walkie]

I downloaded The God Delusion and am listening to it at work...  man what a pompous asshole.

He is a proffessor at Awksfawd. Many of them are like that.

Oh, for crying out loud, Hadron. If that's your opinion of Oxford why the heck did you put it down as your first chioce?

*cough* sour grapes *cough*

 

Funny you should think that, Callaway That's just what I was thinking.

Heck, Hadron, you'll be turning into Aspieknee at this rate. *wince*. Seriously.

Please nobody tell Aspieknee about this site. 

Who is Aspieknee?

I'm not telling you.

*Thinks of puppy dog eyes*

OK, he's someone who always has to have the last word, no matter what, and he posts in red.  Most annoying.

More pertinently, he's somebody who carries an immense chip on his shoulder, because (way back in the eighties) he failed to achieve the kind of recognition that  Luke Jackson has, as a child author. He therefore attemts to discredit Luke Jackson at every opportunity, all in the name of his campaign on behalf of child authors    The sour grapes are painfully obvious

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/liverpool/2003/12/282669.html?c=on

My greatest cause of pain in AS publicity concerns its use of child
>authors, that's Kenneth Hall and Luke Jackson. The wild adulation
>they are getting, is all written as if they had succeeded wholly on
>merit and as if any child with the same abilities could have the
>same success, implying no one else has the abilities. this is doing
>a poisonous mass injustice to both aspies and non-aspies, because it
>shows no awareness that most children who want to be authors are
>being denied the chance, by the volume and abusively tight
>enforcement of school homework that has existed for the past
>generation. I challenge you to look at the record and see that since
>Lindsay Brown in 1978 no child author has emerged to success,
>without having some special factor in their life outside school to
>protect them from homework ruining it. Kenneth Hall is home
>educated, and Luke Jackson, with his horrible personality cult
>labels of unique and amazing, simply had the adults interested in
>his dietary problem, to protect his chance to succeed. So they are
>creations of circumstantial luck most people don't have, and until
>them no non-famous children at all had succeeded as authors since
>1978: a sinister lost generation, that I belong to. Can any aspie
>suffer a more wounding pain of oppression from the present AS image
>machine, than this? - to read the words "It is not often that a 14
>year old boy gets a book published", after I never asked to be a 14
>year old boy with too much homework to get a book published?
>
>There are other reasons, captivity of mind, international law on
>slavery, the abusivensss of mad expectations, children who have
>committed suicide, for holding as I do that homework is a crime
>against humanity. but to every destroyed child author, aspie or not,
>who is upset by Luke, I have an offer. I'm a child author whose
>completion of a sci-fi novel was prevented by criminally idiotic
>life ruining homework in this way, but before it was, I was lucky
>enough to get child author publicity in Welsh newspapers, South
>Wales Echo 20 August 1980 and Western Mail 19 January 1982. The
>point of boasting of this is that it vindicates the genuineness of
>destroyed child authors' experience and shows from historical record
>that we exist. So all destroyed child authors without any historical
>record of their own, you can refer to this in order to have the
>confidence to speak out. Don't live in fear that no one will believe
>you were a child author.

[Christopher McCandless]

There was a lot of other lazy bastards there when i went.

All the people showing us around had a book stuffed up their nose, and were whining about how much work they had to do. Poor NT's and their lack of an eidetic memory...

And thus sayeth the lord... of sweet fuck-all.

You dont think I might know my stuff just a little on this one.

Not if you are saying all autistics have eidetic memory. Because they don't.

You put NTs down and you try to act like one at the same time. That is not logical.

Autistic people on average have a lot better memory that NT's I believe.

I may act like an NT out of neccesity, rather than wanting to.

[renaeden]

There was a lot of other lazy bastards there when i went.

All the people showing us around had a book stuffed up their nose, and were whining about how much work they had to do. Poor NT's and their lack of an eidetic memory...

And thus sayeth the lord... of sweet fuck-all.

You dont think I might know my stuff just a little on this one.

Not if you are saying all autistics have eidetic memory. Because they don't.You put NTs down and you try to act like one at the same time. That is not logical.

Autistic people on average have a lot better memory that NT's I believe.
I may act like an NT out of neccesity, rather than wanting to.

GA has a good memory, maybe even photographic. I wish that I did, even before ECT it was terrible.

Hopefully in the future you don't have to act NT. Less stress to be the natural you.