“Only the dead have seen the end of war.” - Plato (philosopher) 428 B.C.E. - 348 B.C.E.
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i knew about them. there's a subtle difference - it's the small matter of an "i".
it's miles older than that. don't get me started, cos i could write a book about it (in fact, i did), and i can't be fucked, just at the moment.
should i start a cult?