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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2007, 06:18:26 PM »
Yeah, I remember those beheading videos.  I had a coworker who was fascinated by them.  I refused to watch them at all because doing so would support the terrorists' actions.

I don't know about the pig - it's been mentioned on WP. 
You could use the same arguement against watching the news. Can you link me so i can make my own mind up to this content you think should be censored?

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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2007, 06:21:21 PM »
Yeah, I remember those beheading videos.  I had a coworker who was fascinated by them.  I refused to watch them at all because doing so would support the terrorists' actions.

I don't know about the pig - it's been mentioned on WP. 

A friend gave me the link to the beheading clip and told me that i wouldn't thank him for it. But i can't not watch these things. Im a bit of a masochist.
Yes, I mentioned the pig in an animal rights thread.

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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2007, 06:24:11 PM »
Do you have the links?  I wouldn't even begin to know where to look for them. 

Also, for my information, was the pig an amateur video or a slaughterhouse undercover thing like the one on WP?  Documenting slaughterhouse conditions and animal snuff films just for fun are different, IMHO.  So I'm curious.  Post the link if you have it.. 
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2007, 06:25:39 PM »
Yeah, I remember those beheading videos.  I had a coworker who was fascinated by them.  I refused to watch them at all because doing so would support the terrorists' actions.

I don't know about the pig - it's been mentioned on WP. 
You could use the same arguement against watching the news. Can you link me so i can make my own mind up to this content you think should be censored?
I wouldn't censor this sort of stuff, but i think a warning should be given about content.
If you want to see some sick stuff, then a lot of what ive seen originates from ogirish.com or something like that.

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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2007, 06:27:47 PM »
Do you have the links?  I wouldn't even begin to know where to look for them. 

Also, for my information, was the pig an amateur video or a slaughterhouse undercover thing like the one on WP?  Documenting slaughterhouse conditions and animal snuff films just for fun are different, IMHO.  So I'm curious.  Post the link if you have it.. 

No it was nothing to do undercoverwork. Just some teenager making a snuff movie.
Originally from ogirish.com ( maybe ogrish.com), but i saw it on one of the image boards.

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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2007, 06:28:38 PM »
Content warnings would be fine, if the poster only provided a link.  However, if actual images were posted, then the reader would not be able to make a choice about whether or not to view potentially disturbing content.  This is another important distinction that has not been made in the discussion before.  
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2007, 06:30:34 PM »
Yeah, I remember those beheading videos.  I had a coworker who was fascinated by them.  I refused to watch them at all because doing so would support the terrorists' actions.

I don't know about the pig - it's been mentioned on WP. 
You could use the same arguement against watching the news. Can you link me so i can make my own mind up to this content you think should be censored?
I wouldn't censor this sort of stuff, but i think a warning should be given about content.
If you want to see some sick stuff, then a lot of what ive seen originates from ogirish.com or something like that.
A warning shouldnt be given, asides the one in the front of the site, this is an adult forum. Obviously if someone posts kiddie porn then that person should be banned and reported, but asides that i dont see the problem. I might have a skim on that website, thanks Kosmonaut

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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2007, 06:34:51 PM »
Content warnings would be fine, if the poster only provided a link.  However, if actual images were posted, then the reader would not be able to make a choice about whether or not to view potentially disturbing content.  This is another important distinction that has not been made in the discussion before. 

Yes i see the point. But with me, i wouldn't be able to help myself from clicking a link with such a warning. So it really would not make much difference.
I don't seek it out. But if someone says, dont watch this it's sick, then i will be compelled to watch.

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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2007, 06:38:54 PM »
Yeah, I remember those beheading videos.  I had a coworker who was fascinated by them.  I refused to watch them at all because doing so would support the terrorists' actions.

I don't know about the pig - it's been mentioned on WP. 
You could use the same arguement against watching the news. Can you link me so i can make my own mind up to this content you think should be censored?
I wouldn't censor this sort of stuff, but i think a warning should be given about content.
If you want to see some sick stuff, then a lot of what ive seen originates from ogirish.com or something like that.
A warning shouldnt be given, asides the one in the front of the site, this is an adult forum. Obviously if someone posts kiddie porn then that person should be banned and reported, but asides that i dont see the problem. I might have a skim on that website, thanks Kosmonaut
Well sure, it may be an adult site, but that does not mean i should have to be exposed to gory, sick imagery without any warning.
Enjoy ogrish.com

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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2007, 06:40:54 PM »
Content warnings would be fine, if the poster only provided a link.  However, if actual images were posted, then the reader would not be able to make a choice about whether or not to view potentially disturbing content.  This is another important distinction that has not been made in the discussion before. 

Yes i see the point. But with me, i wouldn't be able to help myself from clicking a link with such a warning. So it really would not make much difference.
I don't seek it out. But if someone says, dont watch this it's sick, then i will be compelled to watch.

Im sure you are tough enough to stand the odd bit of disturbing material, and anyway if you are on an adult forum you should really be prepared for it up to a degree.

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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2007, 06:48:48 PM »
Well sure, it may be an adult site, but that does not mean i should have to be exposed to gory, sick imagery without any warning.

If you don't like it, leave the site. You don't have to expose yourself to things you find disturbing by coming here. This site does not exist to protect your sensibilities.

I agree with Odeon and Lucifer. Legality is the only reason to prevent material from being posted here. All other reasons involve imposing one person's arbitrary standard of what's acceptable on everyone else.

Any member here is free to "warn" any other member by posting to them, or by calling them out, or by sending PM's. There is no need for "official" warnings.
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2007, 07:19:35 PM »
I really wish to hell that I knew what
mine was in response to. I believe that
'twas something deserving of that retort,
if only in my drunken stupor.

Did eamon post here?

No, he didn't.  There are no deleted posts from this thread in the deleted posts forum.  Nobody posted anything that was deserving of that retort, IMO.

I think it was a drunken attempt at some humor
from the OP. I don't see it though. Anyhow, I
appologize to anyone who took it otherwise.

Given my immediate responce, vivi, I don't believe
that it was intended towards you. I can't be certain,
as I was pretty damned pissed off (nothing to do with
anything here) as well as pissed.

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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #42 on: July 14, 2007, 03:42:14 AM »
Well sure, it may be an adult site, but that does not mean i should have to be exposed to gory, sick imagery without any warning.

If you don't like it, leave the site. You don't have to expose yourself to things you find disturbing by coming here. This site does not exist to protect your sensibilities.


Exactly, it's not rocket science is it.
Just wondering, have you got anything you find disturbing you could expose me to ?

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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #43 on: July 14, 2007, 05:47:39 AM »
Just wondering, have you got anything you find disturbing you could expose me to ?

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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #44 on: July 14, 2007, 05:54:19 AM »
Just wondering, have you got anything you find disturbing you could expose me to ?
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