World Council Discussion

[purposefulinsanity]

why?  aren't they rather unlikely to want to vote anyway, if they've fucked off?

it's just that someone can run...example not given.... and then they can invite several people that they know to sign up just to vote for them.
or, they can all sign up 30 days before the next election, not post, but vote for the power hungry person when the elections come up.
that is why i say they should be at least active on the board, and a member for at least 30 days.

I'd agree with that- I think there's always a fear that someone will invite lots of their 'friends' over to help swing the vote in their favour.

[Calandale]

me?  if that's how it is, i've no problem with it.

Nor do I, except that I let myself be confused,
and thought that it did matter, for a bit.

[odeon]

I'm not sure that it is possible to run anything democratically, on the net.
In the end, it's always at the suffering of the proprietor.

It's true that Dunc could change his mind and we'd have no recourse.  Maybe if we were paying to whore his site we'd have some enforcable contract?  I dunno - I'm not a lawyer and I don't even know WHERE it would be enforceable - it's just a possibility..  But as long as Dunc is committed to this democratic vision, I think it's possible. 

If, for instance, Calaway went off her rocker and banned the WC, the democratic thing to do would be to un ban the WC and call them in for a no-confidence vote.  That would allow Dunc to avoid making a unilateral decision to remove an admin. 

Actually, if Dunc goes overboard, I have a theoretical chance of fixing it. The opposite also applies.

[odeon]

when there was something major to deal with (atomic fucktard), it was handled on the spot, efficiently, calmly and without anyone dying.

That's not major. That was obvious.

No one's going to die. But, quite simply,
I've said it again and again, there are a
couple of people who absolutely run the
site. They ALLOW us to pretend at a
democracy, but it can't be real.

It's the same with any democracy. People have to believe in it.

[Lucifer]

when there was something major to deal with (atomic fucktard), it was handled on the spot, efficiently, calmly and without anyone dying.

That's not major. That was obvious.

okay for you to say - you weren't the one putting in all the work to deal with it.  dunc was.

[Calandale]

It's the same with any democracy. People have to believe in it.

Yeah, but this is a situation where
there are a couple of people who
are, by themselves, the combined
military and police might. It is more
than simply believing in the democracy,
but also in those very few people. That
no longer sounds like democracy. Not in
the least.

okay for you to say - you weren't the one putting in all the work to deal with it.  dunc was.

Not as though I haven't dealt with worse from him.
Yeah, it's a bit of a pain, but not a real threat to the
site. Not to the core values. Couldn't be allowed.
That's all.

[ozymandias]

Ok, for the sake of fairness and honor, when I become admin.  I will impose my own code of ethics and morality and ban everybody from the forum and rule in splendid isolation.   Just like my hero, Mrs.Mark!   Because I am so moral and moderate that I hold myself up as a beacon of light in a dark world.   Just thought you'd like to know what my plans are.  But, then again, I am soooooooooo intelligent that you plebians are completely dumbfounded at my superior intellect.

BTW,  I'm being sarcastic!  

You will be awfully lonely.

Just let me know before the mass bannings so that I can throw an exit tantrum.   

ANd please make it a good one, some of these others have been so pedestrian.  We want to be amused

[odeon]

It's the same with any democracy. People have to believe in it.

Yeah, but this is a situation where
there are a couple of people who
are, by themselves, the combined
military and police might. It is more
than simply believing in the democracy,
but also in those very few people. That
no longer sounds like democracy. Not in
the least.

I am one of those people. I haven't done anything to harm this site. The rest is up to you.

[Lucifer]

/loses the will to live...

[McGiver]

It's the same with any democracy. People have to believe in it.

Yeah, but this is a situation where
there are a couple of people who
are, by themselves, the combined
military and police might. It is more
than simply believing in the democracy,
but also in those very few people. That
no longer sounds like democracy. Not in
the least.

I am one of those people. I haven't done anything to harm this site. The rest is up to you.

we need some complainers.  conflict is good for the storyline.

[El]

To do so after the fact would be REALLY
ugly. But, that's what happens when we
have no rules, and just operate by instinct.

For every rule you add, you lose some of what this site is about.

Yeah, I know. But what you stated about bringing
it to the WP, means that it stands as a bump in
the simulated democracy. If it were to act in a
manner to overturn votes, effectively it's throwing
a coup. Again, I'm not sure that there's anything
which is too big a deal with allowing a 'stolen'
election, such as would happen if a bunch of
new people came in at once. But there can be
no democracy without clear voting rules.

Bringing it to the WP - is that a Freudian slip, Fuehrer?!?!?! 

  

I keep waiting to make that mistake myself.

/loses the will to live...

Nooo!  There's things in this life worth living for!  Like, umm...

like...

like chocolate shoes!

[Lucifer]

i can live without those particular shoes, cos they're a little pedestrian (oh, how i am laughing) for my tastes.  but you did mention chocolate.  i shall reconsider. 

does this mean PMS Elle has just saved my life?   

[El]

i can live without those particular shoes, cos they're a little pedestrian (oh, how i am laughing) for my tastes.  but you did mention chocolate.  i shall reconsider. 

does this mean PMS Elle has just saved my life?   

Click on the picture.  The shoes ARE chocolate.   

[Lucifer]

i can live without those particular shoes, cos they're a little pedestrian (oh, how i am laughing) for my tastes.  but you did mention chocolate.  i shall reconsider. 

does this mean PMS Elle has just saved my life?   

Click on the picture.  The shoes ARE chocolate.   

marry me.  marry me now.  my soul is yours.

and i didn't know (quote) "Nordstrom's was the place for the shoe-obsessed".  i shall have to investigate.

(i am PISSING myself!)


EDIT:  they have got to be KIDDING!  i've just looked at about 400 pairs of shoes, and there wasn't one pair i'd wear without having to be paid vast sums of money.  gruesome. 

[El]

i can live without those particular shoes, cos they're a little pedestrian (oh, how i am laughing) for my tastes.  but you did mention chocolate.  i shall reconsider. 

does this mean PMS Elle has just saved my life?   

Click on the picture.  The shoes ARE chocolate.   

marry me.  marry me now.  my soul is yours.

and i didn't know (quote) "Nordstrom's was the place for the shoe-obsessed".  i shall have to investigate.

(i am PISSING myself!)

I thought you'd like that.