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Re: Interrogate PMS Elle!
« Reply #2220 on: September 02, 2011, 04:58:21 AM »
I responded to Trigger in the callout thread.

re:  Les- I believe I said this before but I'll repeat it.  I think I come across as more extreme on here than I am in real life, but I did take stock of some of my views of/reactions to men since that callout (as a direct result of it, as well as of a friend IRL who is stridently anti-gender-stereotype), and I think I have toned it tone a bit, IRL as well as (I think?  maybe?) on here.  I don't bear Les any ill will and I don't think he launched an arbitrary hate-driven attack on me. 

I think the signature got a little stale but then, so did my custom title.  I shoudl attend to that now.

Yeah well I am reactionary and not very good at saying things gently even when the intent is there.
I do like you Elle. That is why it mattered.
Yeah, you have toned it down a lot and I appreciate it. I did like the resolution to the callout.
Found a new sig now and I like it. Your custom title? Hell, it was what was agreed upon by the membership and it doesn't bother me and I don't actually look at it apart from when it is bought to my attention. Feel free to keep it for as long as you like.
Not seeing much of the happy, humourous Elle of old and hope in time that will change and that you will have good reason to feel that way.
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As life IRL fluxuates, so does the etxent to which I post on this board, and the flavor of those posts.

This is actually not critcising you for not being happy go lucky, bubbly or humourous or an expectation you ought to be. But as the bolded bit suggests. I see acknowledge that things are a bit rougher in your life than those times that you were those things, and I am hoping for things to get better, This was followed on with the thought that if youy needed someone to chat to becauase of this I am available.
*nod*  I didn't take it as criticism, and TY for the offer.  I hope things in my life get better, too.  I've been doing what I can to make them better and it's worked, by and large- in terms of what I can control, anyway. 

The things I can't?  Here to stay for a long time yet, and the improvement there is learning to live with the weight of them.  I've gotten better at it- I'm crushed now in moments instead of all the time (and only OK in moments)- and I'm hoping that will continue (even if it's merely a progresive numbing, whch is what I suspect it is).  A lot of my innocence is gone, and gone for good, though- and I miss it like hell.  I can hope to be better in time, but I can't get back some of the intangibles I've lost.
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Re: Interrogate PMS Elle!
« Reply #2221 on: September 02, 2011, 05:45:55 AM »
I responded to Trigger in the callout thread.

re:  Les- I believe I said this before but I'll repeat it.  I think I come across as more extreme on here than I am in real life, but I did take stock of some of my views of/reactions to men since that callout (as a direct result of it, as well as of a friend IRL who is stridently anti-gender-stereotype), and I think I have toned it tone a bit, IRL as well as (I think?  maybe?) on here.  I don't bear Les any ill will and I don't think he launched an arbitrary hate-driven attack on me. 

I think the signature got a little stale but then, so did my custom title.  I shoudl attend to that now.

Yeah well I am reactionary and not very good at saying things gently even when the intent is there.
I do like you Elle. That is why it mattered.
Yeah, you have toned it down a lot and I appreciate it. I did like the resolution to the callout.
Found a new sig now and I like it. Your custom title? Hell, it was what was agreed upon by the membership and it doesn't bother me and I don't actually look at it apart from when it is bought to my attention. Feel free to keep it for as long as you like.
Not seeing much of the happy, humourous Elle of old and hope in time that will change and that you will have good reason to feel that way.
You ever need to chat then PM me. Always open. Can't promise delicacy but can promise I will listen and I will be honest and care.
As life IRL fluxuates, so does the etxent to which I post on this board, and the flavor of those posts.

This is actually not critcising you for not being happy go lucky, bubbly or humourous or an expectation you ought to be. But as the bolded bit suggests. I see acknowledge that things are a bit rougher in your life than those times that you were those things, and I am hoping for things to get better, This was followed on with the thought that if youy needed someone to chat to becauase of this I am available.
*nod*  I didn't take it as criticism, and TY for the offer.  I hope things in my life get better, too.  I've been doing what I can to make them better and it's worked, by and large- in terms of what I can control, anyway. 

The things I can't?  Here to stay for a long time yet, and the improvement there is learning to live with the weight of them.  I've gotten better at it- I'm crushed now in moments instead of all the time (and only OK in moments)- and I'm hoping that will continue (even if it's merely a progresive numbing, whch is what I suspect it is).  A lot of my innocence is gone, and gone for good, though- and I miss it like hell.  I can hope to be better in time, but I can't get back some of the intangibles I've lost.

I can probably say this now that it has passed, but whilst you all may have hearrd of the one offs of Heart attacks, Car crashes and Swine Flu and the like. I was in a REALLY bad place for much (if not most of this time). Financially I nearly went to the wall and much of my life at every point was hanging by the fingernails. Little reserve or room to move with anything. Not just financially, but physically my body was struggling, emotionally I had little reserve.

I was like this for three or four years. It was a constant. It was not fault of my own but ultimately I had to cope anyhow. There was no "outs" and little hope forward. So I had to just endure. I had no support no one able to ease my burdens. If I was sick, I did not get paid if i did not work. I could not have time off to get better. So my body was not healing and getting worse and so on.  Work was suffering because I was not well enough to work and my concentration levels and ability to focus on my job shot to shit because of pain and lack of sleep and because of having too little time off, so the circular dillemas went. But this is merely one example of problems. They were constant. They were varied and they were relentless.

That said and 3 or 4 years later, things are better. I never thought I would ever be able to feel the relaxation of pressure....but it is here. The fear has gone and the energy draining hypervigilance.

So I may understand a bit of what you feel and the drain it does you. I can also say that things can change.

Maybe I am just less expectant. Maybe thing process has changed me or maybe in contrast to how things were, this just appears fantastic in comparison. I think that it may be a bit of each but that does not change the fact that things can get better.
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Re: Interrogate PMS Elle!
« Reply #2222 on: September 02, 2011, 02:27:23 PM »
Wise words, mate.
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Re: Interrogate PMS Elle!
« Reply #2223 on: September 06, 2011, 01:54:50 AM »
Are you suggesting Dirt Dawg is a dense donut?

I've never met DirtDawg, but I thought he owned the initials DD  :zoinks:

For KK I can only come up with QuirkyCarla, and that doesn't really work  :-\
I would like to see Quirky Carla back here. She is cool.

Like to see both of them back here.




And wow, you can pick what kind of donuts you want?  :orly:

Sometimes, my supermarket happens to have donuts, brand-less ones. Then I may be inclined to buy them.
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Re: Interrogate PMS Elle!
« Reply #2224 on: September 16, 2011, 07:19:00 AM »
I don't feel like going back and quoting walls of posts, so I will give my story. I want to apologize up front if anything I say betrays anyone's trust, in particular Eclair.

Many of you know about my situation, but some of you do not know I never moved out. I continue cohabiting so I can be with my kids. Things are awkward and weird and recent information from my minions has me realizing I need to be more active to get their mother to shape up or force the issue and go to the courts.

For several months Eclair and I were talking privately. Some of it was getting to know each other, some of it was giving each other support, and some of it was more private. I did have difficulty talking to her at times and thought conversations were over when I guess a response was expected. I was troubled when it was inferred she genuinely liked me, whatever that really meant. I can't understand as I find it hard to really know and thus like someone just from words on a screen and each sharing a picture that didn't even show faces. Regardless, I was not able to handle this and felt personally awful as I felt guilt over possibly misleading Eclair. This all happened the same time I was talking to Elle about meeting up again, which I think I had shared with Eclair. Then Scrap sent me an intimate picture of Eclair and I responded that 'they' looked really nice. Probably was inappropriate on my part. The picture was deleted by Scrap as soon as I viewed it. Combined with personal stuff at work and home, I stopped posting in here. Take from this information whatever you want. I like Eclair, but didn't get the attacks on Elle, especially since accusations flew that included me and seemed to imply things. Since I came back, and before I read this thread, I sent her several PMs and have gotten no response. I guess she left and that is too bad.

I want to publicly apologize to Eclair for any wrongdoing I did to her. All I can say is I did not do anything intentionally and I genuinely like her and if I ever do make it Down Under, I would love to take her out for dinner...no strings attached.

As far as Les vs. Elle, in my opinion you both should get over it. Remove the inferences in your signatures and titles and move on. Having met Elle and hung out with her as long as I have on here, I think I get that a lot of her attacks on men are in jest. I miss the "Goddess of Blue Balls" moniker as I had dubbed it. Made me feel special. Also, I apologize for making jokes about the whole thing between you two as I had no idea what was going on. I also had no idea about Hyke. My apologies for dragging that out by "correcting" posts.

With regards to Les' attacks on Elle...I believe that they were very hateful and quite frankly out of line. Calling Elle a bigot is a pretty wild accusation. It's not about being a victim, but from what I know of Elle and what she has shared on here, she hasn't had the greatest experiences with men. I have actually tried to be her friend to show her we are not all trying to get in her pants. Maybe if some others would do the same, not you Les - I'm talking about Scrap and others, she wouldn't be so negative on here at times. Only she can really speak to her personal stuff and how they intertwine with any of this. Regardless, your accusations Les were not very well backed up anyway. Get over it and move on. I like you and have nothing personal with you. Just my opinion. Also, Hyke is really cool.

As far as Heinrich goes, duuuude, I consider you a friend and am sorry you stumbled into this nonsense and got run over in the process. For that, I apologize for instigating, apparently, this volatile situation. I followed you and your cohorts to zOMG and then here. I feel we have shared in a way a very difficult time and it affected us both profoundly, although you waaaaay more intimately. PM me if you ever want to talk.

FINALLY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY:

DUNKIN DONUTS

KICK KRISPY KREME'S ASS!!! AND I CAN GET EITHER AT ANY TIME I WANT!!!

If I think of anything else, I will post it.

It is amazing at what great lengths people will go to in order to portray themselves as noble. Your most recent pm on 23 August...which landed in my personal email outside of this site, of how sorry you were....then I log on to see post after post of bullshit, basically dragging months of old garbage up, in order to open up a channel of communication with Elle....through ridiculous callouts....and more shockingly unwanted texts.

I suggest if you have an obsession with Elle, that you cannot control, you keep me out of it at this late stage.

Any genuine regard you may like others to think you had for me, or my situation, which you seem to be obliviously unaware of...is totally cancelled out by your stupid Dunkin Donuts comment at the end of the above post.

Again, I'd thank you to keep me out of your personal obsession with Elle, and portraying to members that you ever had any regard for my own personal situation.

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Re: Interrogate PMS Elle!
« Reply #2225 on: September 16, 2011, 10:17:38 PM »
^^^

Some people just don't know how to stay gone.  :dunno:

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Re: Interrogate PMS Elle!
« Reply #2226 on: September 16, 2011, 10:20:59 PM »
^^^

Some people just don't know how to stay gone.  :dunno:
Perhaps. I don't want Eclair to stay gone..

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Re: Interrogate PMS Elle!
« Reply #2227 on: September 16, 2011, 10:29:17 PM »
... I have actually tried to be her friend to show her we are not all trying to get in her pants. Maybe if some others would do the same, not you Les - I'm talking about Scrap and others, she wouldn't be so negative on here at times. ...

How the fuck did I get drug into all of this??  :zombiefuck:

I've made no more effort to get down PMS Elle's pants then any other female here. :scratchhead:

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Re: Interrogate PMS Elle!
« Reply #2228 on: September 17, 2011, 05:42:28 AM »
^^^

Some people just don't know how to stay gone.  :dunno:
Perhaps. I don't want Eclair to stay gone..

He is not the only one
I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

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Re: Interrogate PMS Elle!
« Reply #2229 on: September 17, 2011, 06:55:14 AM »
Coming here doesn't seem to do her any good, though.
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Re: Interrogate PMS Elle!
« Reply #2230 on: September 18, 2011, 11:30:40 AM »
Oh god, here goes round three.  (Or is it four?)

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Re: Interrogate PMS Elle!
« Reply #2231 on: September 18, 2011, 07:15:04 PM »
I think we lost count a long time ago.

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Re: Interrogate PMS Elle!
« Reply #2232 on: September 18, 2011, 07:18:13 PM »
Oh god, here goes round three.  (Or is it four?)
I don't think so. Elle and Trigger have put this to bed, I doubt that either one wants to re ignite it.

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Re: Interrogate PMS Elle!
« Reply #2233 on: October 12, 2011, 04:56:55 AM »
I can probably say this now that it has passed, but whilst you all may have hearrd of the one offs of Heart attacks, Car crashes and Swine Flu and the like. I was in a REALLY bad place for much (if not most of this time). Financially I nearly went to the wall and much of my life at every point was hanging by the fingernails. Little reserve or room to move with anything. Not just financially, but physically my body was struggling, emotionally I had little reserve.

I was like this for three or four years. It was a constant. It was not fault of my own but ultimately I had to cope anyhow. There was no "outs" and little hope forward. So I had to just endure. I had no support no one able to ease my burdens. If I was sick, I did not get paid if i did not work. I could not have time off to get better. So my body was not healing and getting worse and so on.  Work was suffering because I was not well enough to work and my concentration levels and ability to focus on my job shot to shit because of pain and lack of sleep and because of having too little time off, so the circular dillemas went. But this is merely one example of problems. They were constant. They were varied and they were relentless.

That said and 3 or 4 years later, things are better. I never thought I would ever be able to feel the relaxation of pressure....but it is here. The fear has gone and the energy draining hypervigilance.

So I may understand a bit of what you feel and the drain it does you. I can also say that things can change.

Maybe I am just less expectant. Maybe thing process has changed me or maybe in contrast to how things were, this just appears fantastic in comparison. I think that it may be a bit of each but that does not change the fact that things can get better.
I think that pretty well describes where I am.  Some things will pass.  Some won't.  Many will pass but no time soon.  I won't get back the innocence or illusions I've lost, but I may learn to accept them.  Right now, though, I'm pretty much just plodding along because I have to, and hoping things get better.
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Re: Interrogate PMS Elle!
« Reply #2234 on: October 25, 2011, 06:21:53 PM »
it's been 4 years now. when are we going to do the sex..?