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Re: Someone started a thread about us at WP.
« Reply #45 on: June 05, 2007, 09:18:24 PM »
Past is not an absolute predictor
of future behavior. I'd like to find
where he claims not to be able to
read PMs.

Here in the WP TOS, Alex claims that PMs should not be read by anyone else, but not that they can not be:

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WrongPlanet.net has a private messaging feature. Messages passed between users should not be
read by anyone other than the sender and the recipient.

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Re: Someone started a thread about us at WP.
« Reply #46 on: June 05, 2007, 09:25:22 PM »

The truth is that Alex lies.

So, what makes you say this?
I can't imagine you saying something
like this, without personal experience
of such.

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Re: Someone started a thread about us at WP.
« Reply #47 on: June 05, 2007, 10:46:28 PM »

The truth is that Alex lies.

So, what makes you say this?
I can't imagine you saying something
like this, without personal experience
of such.

I say that Alex lies because I have watched him do it over and over again. 

I have watched idealistic people like you who want to help and make a difference get used, abused and lied to by Alex.


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Re: Someone started a thread about us at WP.
« Reply #48 on: June 05, 2007, 10:53:10 PM »

I say that Alex lies because I have watched him do it over and over again. 

I have watched idealistic people like you who want to help and make a difference get used, abused and lied to by Alex.

I'll have to trust you, but without
a real proof, I can't really judge the
man. Probably wouldn't until I see
actions on my own anyhow, as people
change, and he's still young.

Don't overestimate my ideals. I'm just a dutiful spammer.

I don't feel that there's
anything that he's said though which COULD be converted
into a lie. The quality of people who he's pissed off bugs
me, but I think that he's learned not to make promises
that he might not be able to keep.

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Re: Someone started a thread about us at WP.
« Reply #49 on: June 05, 2007, 11:53:07 PM »

I say that Alex lies because I have watched him do it over and over again. 

I have watched idealistic people like you who want to help and make a difference get used, abused and lied to by Alex.

I'll have to trust you, but without
a real proof, I can't really judge the
man. Probably wouldn't until I see
actions on my own anyhow, as people
change, and he's still young.

Don't overestimate my ideals. I'm just a dutiful spammer.

I don't feel that there's
anything that he's said though which COULD be converted
into a lie. The quality of people who he's pissed off bugs
me, but I think that he's learned not to make promises
that he might not be able to keep.

Can you see a thread on WP titled "The truth" which was started by Ascan on February 24, 2006 or did Alex completely delete it?

Alex has a post in this thread in which he both admits reading her PM and then denies reading people's PMs.

"I did read a PM from vetivert."

"Rest assured that your private messages are indeed private and anything anyone else says to the contrary is untrue."

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Re: Someone started a thread about us at WP.
« Reply #50 on: June 05, 2007, 11:59:18 PM »
Threads like this are old news tbh.

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Re: Someone started a thread about us at WP.
« Reply #51 on: June 06, 2007, 12:00:32 AM »
Threads like this are old news tbh.

Maybe so, but it is still interesting.

Do you have any evidence that Alex lies?

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Re: Someone started a thread about us at WP.
« Reply #52 on: June 06, 2007, 12:00:49 AM »
But I'm not old news, and Callaway
is trying to help me find them.

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Re: Someone started a thread about us at WP.
« Reply #53 on: June 06, 2007, 01:53:13 AM »
unfortunately - for you, anyway - the whole mess got so complicated and dragged out that many people are thoroughly bored with it.  which is probably why few people who "were there" are posting in this thread.  for myself (and callaway's right - it all started with me), i lose the will to live, even thinking about going over it all again.

i appreciate (and agree with) your reluctance to condemn someone without evidence.  i'm so bored with the whole travesty that i deleted all the evidence i have, otherwise, you could have had pages and pages of it, including deleted threads, IM logs and emails.

having said which - and to be fair - i'll say this much:  WP used to be a great site.  it really did offer support and a sense of "homecoming" to a lot of people, including me.  then alex got into the whole idea of being a media slut, making money off the site, and using it to find a girlfriend.  and then it all went pear shaped.  a number of people here virtually ran the site, at one point or another - duncvis, pyraxis, me, for example - due to alex's lack of interest in the supposed purpose of WP.  it's the lying, the deceit and the exploitation people get so exercised about.

the end.  i hope. 

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Re: Someone started a thread about us at WP.
« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2007, 02:22:24 AM »
This is indeed old news. I feel sorry for the people who still believe anything Alex says.
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Re: Someone started a thread about us at WP.
« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2007, 04:28:47 AM »
Threads like this are old news tbh.

Maybe so, but it is still interesting.

Do you have any evidence that Alex lies?

Yes. I'm not going to elaborate on it but he also lied directly to me in an MSN conversation.

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Re: Someone started a thread about us at WP.
« Reply #56 on: June 06, 2007, 06:41:53 AM »
But, pm's are not really private, so act accordingly before you send one.  Thats is why I block the ability to pm me from certain people.  If people have a problem with me, I'd rather they ask me about it publicly, rather then backstage.  I got screwed with that on the neurolands as a mod. on the banning of "hiro".   Something I will never allow to happen again. >:(


If there ever was a person there who needed to be banned, it was Hiro.  You did the right thing.

Actually, I wasn't the one who did the banning, but, the person who did was scared and so I volunteered to post the announcement of his banning and to have people pm me with any questions.  Now, I wish this had all been done in public on the open forum rather than that way.  If someone is banned it should be publicly announced and people should post questions and answers on a forum rather than do things behind the scenes.  That whole episode and it's results has left a foul taste in my mouth.

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Re: Someone started a thread about us at WP.
« Reply #57 on: June 06, 2007, 07:25:56 AM »
that site sucks.

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Re: Someone started a thread about us at WP.
« Reply #58 on: June 06, 2007, 07:27:15 AM »
that site sucks.
why do you think it's so good.
anythink wrong with sucking?
Misunderstood.

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Re: Someone started a thread about us at WP.
« Reply #59 on: June 06, 2007, 07:31:06 AM »
that site sucks.
why do you think it's so good.
anythink wrong with sucking?

Suck 'em and see.