Ask the new ALLDAYGLOWRANDY anything

[QuirkyCarla]

I kind of see what Calandale is saying, but Randy also seems incapable of being embarrassed...or so he says at least.

Can anyone even imagine what it must be like to have Randy as a brother? It's frustrating enough trying to get through with him on a forum; imagine what it would be like to grow up with the guy and know him in person. I think Fine Chocolate has shown she cares about him by following him here, paying his bills, and cleaning his house. She didn't need to do all that. From what I've seen on here, she seems to be doing really well for herself despite having grown up in such a dysfunctional family. I think her venting is justified.

[Calandale]

I kind of see what Calandale is saying, but Randy also seems incapable of being embarrassed...or so he says at least.

I know. But that doesn't change the ethics.

I think Fine Chocolate has shown she cares about him by following him here, paying his bills, and cleaning his house. She didn't need to do all that. From what I've seen on here, she seems to be doing really well for herself despite having grown up in such a dysfunctional family.

 

I think her venting is justified.

Yeah, but not here.

[Callaway]

I kind of see what Calandale is saying, but Randy also seems incapable of being embarrassed...or so he says at least.

I know. But that doesn't change the ethics.

I think Fine Chocolate has shown she cares about him by following him here, paying his bills, and cleaning his house. She didn't need to do all that. From what I've seen on here, she seems to be doing really well for herself despite having grown up in such a dysfunctional family.

 

I think her venting is justified.

Yeah, but not here.

I don't get why you want to restrict just Fine Chocolate's right to speak freely on a free speech forum, of all places.

Or do you propose restricting everyone's right to speak freely about another member if they happen to know them IRL?



Even though most of our members have AS or something, it is certainly not a requirement for membership here.

I wonder what you are afraid that your big brother would say about you if we invited him here?   

[QuirkyCarla]

I wonder what you are afraid that your big brother would say about you if we invited him here?   

 

[Calandale]

I don't get why you want to restrict just Fine Chocolate's right to speak freely on a free speech forum, of all places.

I don't. I just want to express my personal displeasure
at breaching what I see as an important trust.

Even though most of our members have AS or something, it is certainly not a requirement for membership here.

True, but one can pretty much presume that FC would NOT
be here, but for flo. That makes things a bit different.

I wonder what you are afraid that your big brother would say about you if we invited him here?   

Little brother. And no, he has a pretty good sense of loyalty.
Not sure I would trust my mother though. Not only is she
a bit less honorable, but she also happens to be deranged.
I'd probably not want to be in a community which included
her, TBH.

[Callaway]

Even though most of our members have AS or something, it is certainly not a requirement for membership here.

True, but one can pretty much presume that FC would NOT
be here, but for flo. That makes things a bit different.

So do you believe that in the case of married couples here, if one spouse joins after another spouse, the spouse who joins second is not allowed to say things about the one who joined first, even if the spouse who joined first is saying things about him/her that s/he wants to rebut?

I think that most of what Fine Chocolate is addressing now is in rebuttal to things that Randy said about her or other family members earlier.  You may not have read them all because some of them were posted before you became a member.

If Randy is not keeping his body clean after he visits the toilet or if he isn't dressing as well as he can when he goes to look for jobs, those may be some of the reasons he is having so much trouble finding one.  He desperately needs to find a job, so that sort of comment may be meant to be helpful, even though you think it is meant to be embarrassing to him.  Wouldn't you want to know if you smelled like poop and that was why nobody would hire you?

I wonder what you are afraid that your big brother would say about you if we invited him here?   

Little brother. And no, he has a pretty good sense of loyalty.
Not sure I would trust my mother though. Not only is she
a bit less honorable, but she also happens to be deranged.
I'd probably not want to be in a community which included
her, TBH.

Sorry, my mistake.   

[odeon]

i don't see what's wrong with airing your frustrations here. this is a free speech forum, after all. you don't have to do it yourself, cal, if you don't want to, but others won't have to play by your ethics, especially considering how dodgy they are.

[Calandale]

So do you believe that in the case of married couples here, if one spouse joins after another spouse, the spouse who joins second is not allowed to say things about the one who joined first, even if the spouse who joined first is saying things about him/her that s/he wants to rebut?

Why do you seem to think that my PERSONAL disapproval
of what was done has anything to do with allowed or not?

If a member here acts like an ass, I disapprove of that.
Doesn't mean that they can't do what they're doing.
Even if ALL of us agreed that they're being an ass.

Now, as to your hypothetical, I think it all depends on
the situation. I don't see the couples who are members
here taking a piss on one another. Even PMS and Thag
seem to have handled their break up well, without baring
their laundry. On the other hand, FC's sole purpose for joining
seems to have been to influence Flo's behavior. Without him,
she simply would not have joined, I suspect (again, maybe I
don't know some relevant information). For him to continue
to complain about her seems much less of a breach of faith
than for her to come here and do that to him.

I think that most of what Fine Chocolate is addressing now is in rebuttal to things that Randy said about her or other family members earlier.  You may not have read them all because some of them were posted before you became a member.

Well, that, and Flo's posts are often nearly indecipherable. 

If Randy is not keeping his body clean after he visits the toilet or if he isn't dressing as well as he can when he goes to look for jobs, those may be some of the reasons he is having so much trouble finding one.  He desperately needs to find a job, so that sort of comment may be meant to be helpful, even though you think it is meant to be embarrassing to him.  Wouldn't you want to know if you smelled like poop and that was why nobody would hire you?

Sure these are problems. And yes, they might just help him.
Doesn't mean that I have to approve of the means, just because
the ends are good. I don't tend to operate that way.

i don't see what's wrong with airing your frustrations here. this is a free speech forum, after all. you don't have to do it yourself, cal, if you don't want to, but others won't have to play by your ethics, especially considering how dodgy they are.

Again, OBVIOUSLY they don't have to play by my
ethics. Doesn't mean that I can't express my opinion
on them - it being a free speech site, and all.

BTW - since you seem inclined to judge my ethics as
'dodgy', do you care to explain what you mean? I've
not been a perfect person, but I do rather think that
my code is fairly solid.

[Coral]

Calandale must have missed all of the things Randy has posted about me as well as always saying rotten things about my 8 year old. And the reason for him being followed here is because he's a menace when he gains computer access, Once kicked out of the town library for trying to log on to porn sites, and he's been carted off in an ambulance for stuff he was posting on wrong planet.

[Calandale]

I don't see where ANY of that is relevant to the issue.
Then again, I come from an Italian heritage, where
blood is everything.

[purposefulinsanity]

I think calandale makes a good point- yeah flo has said plenty of shit about his family, but according to them he's the one that needs help and I aren't so sure that trying to embarrass him with personal stuff as some kind of revenge for some of the stuff he's had to say is going to do anything but make the situation worse.

[Peter]

just shows you how much you know, sunshine - i've been a herbalist (amateur) for years, and half of it's bollocks.

No, thats homeopathy, dear. Herbs actually have lots of medicinal properties.

  don't be a pillock all your life, hadron - have a day off!  herbalism isn't homeopathy, it's about herbs.  the clue is in the name: herbalism.    check out the herb bible - Mrs Grieves.

although it is true, i do know a little bit about homeopathy.  and a few other complementary therapies.

I know what it is called. There is nothing wrong with herbalism in itself, its when people pass off Homeopathy (which is in effect uncertified and untested "medicine") as Herbalism. Hence how half of it can be bollocks.

i refer you back to your original comment, which i quoted.

and who the fuck tries to pass off homeopathy as herbalism?  you're getting a bit confused.

you're right about it being unproved, of course, but then it seems to work, so perhaps it's that we don't know the right questions to ask, or the right method of testing, yet.  or it might all be bollocks, (the placebo effect), as you say.  however, no-one's "proved" the theory of evolution yet, either, which is why it's still a theory.

I think it's more common for herbalism to be marketed as homoeopathy than vice versa.

[Christopher McCandless]

Calandale must have missed all of the things Randy has posted about me as well as always saying rotten things about my 8 year old. And the reason for him being followed here is because he's a menace when he gains computer access, Once kicked out of the town library for trying to log on to porn sites, and he's been carted off in an ambulance for stuff he was posting on wrong planet.

What did he actually say there? As for logging onto porn sites, people do that in schools a lot. Quite a lot of men still do it, i know i dont, but i wouldnt hold that one against him.

[mordok]

So do you believe that in the case of married couples here, if one spouse joins after another spouse, the spouse who joins second is not allowed to say things about the one who joined first, even if the spouse who joined first is saying things about him/her that s/he wants to rebut?

Why do you seem to think that my PERSONAL disapproval
of what was done has anything to do with allowed or not?

If a member here acts like an ass, I disapprove of that.
Doesn't mean that they can't do what they're doing.
Even if ALL of us agreed that they're being an ass.

I think this is the crux of our original disagreement with you, cal.  At least it is for me.  Expressing your PERSONAL disapproval is fine as far as I'm concerned.  However, at least originally, you were calling it wrong and unethical with no qualifiers.  To you, those are pretty much the same thing.  From my point of view though, one is just your opinion and you are welcome to it.  The other is appealing to some standard that you think we all share (and apparently, we don't).

[Randy]

I agree with Carla, I am very sorry.

I changed, and if one doesn't try to help one's self they look disabled.

I clean house regulary, and my sister does infact probably have some problems, despite what she has you believing.  I don't want to go into go into specifics.

I am not embarassed because I changed.   I will be back.