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Re: Ask Eclair anything.
« Reply #1665 on: September 11, 2007, 07:53:31 AM »
What day job do you have that occupies your time and reduces your time on here?

Why do you want to know that?
Curiosity, I like to know where older aspies end up.

It's cyclic for me Hadron. 
You mean you want to know where I end up, or aspies older than yourself? I suspect you work in something involving national security, given your other posts.

Sorry, I don't understand that first sentence you have written.

I've posted in this thread earlier what I do generally, however not specifically.  I consulted on many different projects in different industries.

But, I've also been a cleaner or not been able to work at all and had to live off what I have managed to save when I have been able to get work.  That's why I said it's cyclic. 
Oh right, I thought you were talking about my whys and wherefores with the cyclic part, ignore it. Whats you area of expertise anyway?

I can mop up a mean polished floor :P

Having one area of expertise is sort of not the current career trend like it used to be.  I've known people who've gone from being a doctor to being a computer programmer.  It's the joy of having lived a long time! 


I thought people were getting more specialised, as opposed to less? Anyways, what do you actually consult on?

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Re: Ask Eclair anything.
« Reply #1666 on: September 11, 2007, 01:57:40 PM »
Are you over your meltdown?


How about taking a vacation if you're not?

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Re: Ask Eclair anything.
« Reply #1667 on: September 11, 2007, 03:01:58 PM »
What day job do you have that occupies your time and reduces your time on here?

Why do you want to know that?
Curiosity, I like to know where older aspies end up.

It's cyclic for me Hadron. 
You mean you want to know where I end up, or aspies older than yourself? I suspect you work in something involving national security, given your other posts.

Sorry, I don't understand that first sentence you have written.

I've posted in this thread earlier what I do generally, however not specifically.  I consulted on many different projects in different industries.

But, I've also been a cleaner or not been able to work at all and had to live off what I have managed to save when I have been able to get work.  That's why I said it's cyclic. 
Oh right, I thought you were talking about my whys and wherefores with the cyclic part, ignore it. Whats you area of expertise anyway?

I can mop up a mean polished floor :P

Having one area of expertise is sort of not the current career trend like it used to be.  I've known people who've gone from being a doctor to being a computer programmer.  It's the joy of having lived a long time! 


I thought people were getting more specialised, as opposed to less? Anyways, what do you actually consult on?

Can you give me an example of your point?

You like Mathematics don't you?

http://www.science.unimelb.edu.au/majors/ms.php

"Graduates in the modern world can be sure of only one thing - it will be a world of continual change. The ability to change careers, the opportunity to try new things and to travel in this changing world, all depend on the skills you develop now and build on in the future."

I don't have time to find any stats this morning, although it's easy to find sites that back up what I am saying.  Over a 40 year working lifetime until retirement, people are changing their careers up to several times.  Not changing jobs, changing careers.




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Re: Ask Eclair anything.
« Reply #1668 on: September 11, 2007, 03:05:48 PM »
What day job do you have that occupies your time and reduces your time on here?

Why do you want to know that?
Curiosity, I like to know where older aspies end up.

It's cyclic for me Hadron. 
You mean you want to know where I end up, or aspies older than yourself? I suspect you work in something involving national security, given your other posts.

Sorry, I don't understand that first sentence you have written.

I've posted in this thread earlier what I do generally, however not specifically.  I consulted on many different projects in different industries.

But, I've also been a cleaner or not been able to work at all and had to live off what I have managed to save when I have been able to get work.  That's why I said it's cyclic. 
Oh right, I thought you were talking about my whys and wherefores with the cyclic part, ignore it. Whats you area of expertise anyway?

I can mop up a mean polished floor :P

Having one area of expertise is sort of not the current career trend like it used to be.  I've known people who've gone from being a doctor to being a computer programmer.  It's the joy of having lived a long time! 


I thought people were getting more specialised, as opposed to less? Anyways, what do you actually consult on?

Can you give me an example of your point?

You like Mathematics don't you?

http://www.science.unimelb.edu.au/majors/ms.php

"Graduates in the modern world can be sure of only one thing - it will be a world of continual change. The ability to change careers, the opportunity to try new things and to travel in this changing world, all depend on the skills you develop now and build on in the future."

I don't have time to find any stats this morning, although it's easy to find sites that back up what I am saying.  Over a 40 year working lifetime until retirement, people are changing their careers up to several times.  Not changing jobs, changing careers.


I've seen numerous claims to that effect as well.  I think Hadron has confused the person with the job.  My experience is that people are specializing less, while jobs are becoming more specialized.

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Re: Ask Eclair anything.
« Reply #1669 on: September 11, 2007, 03:12:53 PM »
What day job do you have that occupies your time and reduces your time on here?

Why do you want to know that?
Curiosity, I like to know where older aspies end up.

It's cyclic for me Hadron. 
You mean you want to know where I end up, or aspies older than yourself? I suspect you work in something involving national security, given your other posts.

Sorry, I don't understand that first sentence you have written.

I've posted in this thread earlier what I do generally, however not specifically.  I consulted on many different projects in different industries.

But, I've also been a cleaner or not been able to work at all and had to live off what I have managed to save when I have been able to get work.  That's why I said it's cyclic. 
Oh right, I thought you were talking about my whys and wherefores with the cyclic part, ignore it. Whats you area of expertise anyway?

I can mop up a mean polished floor :P

Having one area of expertise is sort of not the current career trend like it used to be.  I've known people who've gone from being a doctor to being a computer programmer.  It's the joy of having lived a long time! 


I thought people were getting more specialised, as opposed to less? Anyways, what do you actually consult on?

Can you give me an example of your point?

You like Mathematics don't you?

http://www.science.unimelb.edu.au/majors/ms.php

"Graduates in the modern world can be sure of only one thing - it will be a world of continual change. The ability to change careers, the opportunity to try new things and to travel in this changing world, all depend on the skills you develop now and build on in the future."

I don't have time to find any stats this morning, although it's easy to find sites that back up what I am saying.  Over a 40 year working lifetime until retirement, people are changing their careers up to several times.  Not changing jobs, changing careers.




Academia. Its very difficult to change from a proffesor of subject X to one of subject Y, simply due to training. As areas get more complex, there is more training needed, so less freedom. Doctors are another one, initially there was one type of doctor, a GP, now you have specialists that cover small areas of medicine.

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Re: Ask Eclair anything.
« Reply #1670 on: September 12, 2007, 01:04:48 AM »

Academia. Its very difficult to change from a proffesor of subject X to one of subject Y, simply due to training. As areas get more complex, there is more training needed, so less freedom. Doctors are another one, initially there was one type of doctor, a GP, now you have specialists that cover small areas of medicine.

Not so difficult as you might think. I had a prof who got his degree
in Psychology, and had an EE background as well, who is tenured on
the CIS dept. This (and many other) is a case where interdepartmental
research can move someone's focus. The guy's specialty is graphics, but
he's slowly becoming more of a paleontologist now.  :laugh:

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Re: Ask Eclair anything.
« Reply #1671 on: September 12, 2007, 03:24:57 AM »
Are you over your meltdown?


How about taking a vacation if you're not?

I can't take a vacation.  I've just had a long break some months back.

Thanks for asking though SG, that's really nice of you to make some suggestions. 

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Re: Ask Eclair anything.
« Reply #1672 on: September 12, 2007, 03:29:40 AM »
What day job do you have that occupies your time and reduces your time on here?

Why do you want to know that?
Curiosity, I like to know where older aspies end up.

It's cyclic for me Hadron. 
You mean you want to know where I end up, or aspies older than yourself? I suspect you work in something involving national security, given your other posts.

Sorry, I don't understand that first sentence you have written.

I've posted in this thread earlier what I do generally, however not specifically.  I consulted on many different projects in different industries.

But, I've also been a cleaner or not been able to work at all and had to live off what I have managed to save when I have been able to get work.  That's why I said it's cyclic. 
Oh right, I thought you were talking about my whys and wherefores with the cyclic part, ignore it. Whats you area of expertise anyway?

I can mop up a mean polished floor :P

Having one area of expertise is sort of not the current career trend like it used to be.  I've known people who've gone from being a doctor to being a computer programmer.  It's the joy of having lived a long time! 


I thought people were getting more specialised, as opposed to less? Anyways, what do you actually consult on?

Can you give me an example of your point?

You like Mathematics don't you?

http://www.science.unimelb.edu.au/majors/ms.php

"Graduates in the modern world can be sure of only one thing - it will be a world of continual change. The ability to change careers, the opportunity to try new things and to travel in this changing world, all depend on the skills you develop now and build on in the future."

I don't have time to find any stats this morning, although it's easy to find sites that back up what I am saying.  Over a 40 year working lifetime until retirement, people are changing their careers up to several times.  Not changing jobs, changing careers.




Academia. Its very difficult to change from a proffesor of subject X to one of subject Y, simply due to training. As areas get more complex, there is more training needed, so less freedom. Doctors are another one, initially there was one type of doctor, a GP, now you have specialists that cover small areas of medicine.

What's your point? I assumed you were pursuing a job in academia because you were of the opinion that specialising was important. 

I am talking about the workforce as a whole. 

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Re: Ask Eclair anything.
« Reply #1673 on: September 12, 2007, 03:43:23 AM »
What day job do you have that occupies your time and reduces your time on here?

Why do you want to know that?
Curiosity, I like to know where older aspies end up.

It's cyclic for me Hadron. 
You mean you want to know where I end up, or aspies older than yourself? I suspect you work in something involving national security, given your other posts.

Sorry, I don't understand that first sentence you have written.

I've posted in this thread earlier what I do generally, however not specifically.  I consulted on many different projects in different industries.

But, I've also been a cleaner or not been able to work at all and had to live off what I have managed to save when I have been able to get work.  That's why I said it's cyclic. 
Oh right, I thought you were talking about my whys and wherefores with the cyclic part, ignore it. Whats you area of expertise anyway?

I can mop up a mean polished floor :P

Having one area of expertise is sort of not the current career trend like it used to be.  I've known people who've gone from being a doctor to being a computer programmer.  It's the joy of having lived a long time! 


I thought people were getting more specialised, as opposed to less? Anyways, what do you actually consult on?

Can you give me an example of your point?

You like Mathematics don't you?

http://www.science.unimelb.edu.au/majors/ms.php

"Graduates in the modern world can be sure of only one thing - it will be a world of continual change. The ability to change careers, the opportunity to try new things and to travel in this changing world, all depend on the skills you develop now and build on in the future."

I don't have time to find any stats this morning, although it's easy to find sites that back up what I am saying.  Over a 40 year working lifetime until retirement, people are changing their careers up to several times.  Not changing jobs, changing careers.




Academia. Its very difficult to change from a proffesor of subject X to one of subject Y, simply due to training. As areas get more complex, there is more training needed, so less freedom. Doctors are another one, initially there was one type of doctor, a GP, now you have specialists that cover small areas of medicine.

What's your point? I assumed you were pursuing a job in academia because you were of the opinion that specialising was important. 

I am talking about the workforce as a whole. 
In the future we will have what is called a "knowledge based economy". I suspect that would mean that changing careers will become more difficult.

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Re: Ask Eclair anything.
« Reply #1674 on: September 12, 2007, 04:48:58 AM »
Hadron, would you care to detail your concept of what a "knowledge based economy" is?


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« Reply #1675 on: September 12, 2007, 04:51:54 AM »
Hadron, would you care to detail your concept of what a "knowledge based economy" is?


This one explains it: http://www.panjab.org.uk/english/knowledg.htm

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« Reply #1676 on: September 12, 2007, 05:12:17 AM »
Hadron, would you care to detail your concept of what a "knowledge based economy" is?


This one explains it: http://www.panjab.org.uk/english/knowledg.htm

I don't want a literary thesis, I want your plain english concept of what a "knowledge based" economy is and how your concept is right over my statement that someone will change careers several times over the span of their working life. 

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Re: Ask Eclair anything.
« Reply #1677 on: September 12, 2007, 05:26:18 AM »
Hadron, would you care to detail your concept of what a "knowledge based economy" is?


This one explains it: http://www.panjab.org.uk/english/knowledg.htm

I don't want a literary thesis, I want your plain english concept of what a "knowledge based" economy is and how your concept is right over my statement that someone will change careers several times over the span of their working life. 
Ok then. A knowledge based economy relies less on production/ manufacturing, and more on industries that require high levels of technical aptitude and knowledge. For example the financial services sector. To have the best knowledge based economy you need people to have lots of in depth knowledge of a smaller area, which means people become more specialised and less able to shift around between areas because of the additional retraining that is required.

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« Reply #1678 on: September 12, 2007, 07:27:44 PM »
What are your obsessions Eclair?

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« Reply #1679 on: September 13, 2007, 04:31:18 AM »
What are your obsessions Eclair?

Probably my first one was music, where I could recognise songs from a few bars and say what the name of the song was, what year it was and who the artist was.  I have a few interests, but somehow, even before I was diagnosed, I knew I had to keep things under control or else they could easily dominate my life.  I find now, I am able to identify more easily once I am focusing too much on something that it needs to be addressed and kept in line.

Except probably when it comes to work.  I always push myself past the comfort zone and usually pay for it either on a personal level or on a professional level.