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Re: i have given up drinking for good
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2007, 01:55:48 PM »
I just came from the liquor store. I bought a bottle of Gentleman Jack instead of my usual single malt. Let's see what it tastes like. It costs about $50 here for 70 cl.

Can you get Knob Creek Bourbon over there ??

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« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2007, 02:02:07 PM »
I just came from the liquor store. I bought a bottle of Gentleman Jack instead of my usual single malt. Let's see what it tastes like. It costs about $50 here for 70 cl.

Can you get Knob Creek Bourbon over there ??

I think so, but I'll probably have to order it specially. It doesn't cost anything in addition, though it might take a week or so to get it.

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Re: i have given up drinking for good
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2007, 03:10:36 PM »
i like my jack over ice, with a splash of diet coke.
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« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2007, 04:23:42 PM »
ive relapsed already!!, this cant be good. thank god im only drinking budweiser

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« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2007, 05:00:53 PM »
How bad are the alcohol taxes in Sweden Lit? Ours are bad enough, compared to France and Belgium but not ridiculous. The extortionate alcohol tax seems to be a Nordic thing - maybe they think it will make booze too dear to drink yourself silly in the dark winter months?

Tip to Richard - drink decent beer, the hangover isn't as bad. Its all the adjuncts and crap that get you in the morning.

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« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2007, 05:03:39 PM »
How bad are the alcohol taxes in Sweden Lit? Ours are bad enough, compared to France and Belgium but not ridiculous. The extortionate alcohol tax seems to be a Nordic thing - maybe they think it will make booze too dear to drink yourself silly in the dark winter months?


I think it's 40% tax or something like that. The tax on food is 25%. Yes, they think the taxes will stop people from drinking. But we can easily get the booze in Denmark or Germany or make it at home. Many Swedes actually make their own booze. As I say, they're not cowards with everything.  8)

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Re: i have given up drinking for good
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2007, 06:42:48 PM »
How bad are the alcohol taxes in Sweden Lit? Ours are bad enough, compared to France and Belgium but not ridiculous. The extortionate alcohol tax seems to be a Nordic thing - maybe they think it will make booze too dear to drink yourself silly in the dark winter months?


I think it's 40% tax or something like that. The tax on food is 25%. Yes, they think the taxes will stop people from drinking. But we can easily get the booze in Denmark or Germany or make it at home. Many Swedes actually make their own booze. As I say, they're not cowards with everything.  8)
25% for food.

what, do they expect people to stop eatling also?
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« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2007, 01:26:10 AM »
How bad are the alcohol taxes in Sweden Lit? Ours are bad enough, compared to France and Belgium but not ridiculous. The extortionate alcohol tax seems to be a Nordic thing - maybe they think it will make booze too dear to drink yourself silly in the dark winter months?


I think it's 40% tax or something like that. The tax on food is 25%. Yes, they think the taxes will stop people from drinking. But we can easily get the booze in Denmark or Germany or make it at home. Many Swedes actually make their own booze. As I say, they're not cowards with everything.  8)
25% for food.

what, do they expect people to stop eatling also?

We have an overall 25% VAT. A few things are taxed lower, though, like books (6%), but booze is 40% and gas is 88%, if I remember correctly. There is a double tax of some kind on gas, which in the end makes it 88%. The tobacco tax is also higher, but I don't remember how much. Since 1 January this year every cigar or cigarillo is 1 krona more expensive though (about 15 cents).

There actually was a debate whether unhealthy food should be taxed higher but so far that hasn't happened.

A Swede who earns $50000/year pays about 40% income tax. But with the VAT and all other taxes it becomes 60-70% in reality, that goes back to the state. Even if you earn as little as $10000/year, you still have to pay about 20% local tax. :(

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Re: i have given up drinking for good
« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2007, 03:41:08 AM »
How bad are the alcohol taxes in Sweden Lit? Ours are bad enough, compared to France and Belgium but not ridiculous. The extortionate alcohol tax seems to be a Nordic thing - maybe they think it will make booze too dear to drink yourself silly in the dark winter months?


There actually was a debate whether unhealthy food should be taxed higher but so far that hasn't happened.

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There was/is a huge movement to do that, here and they have already defined "Snack food" as unhealthy. Some are already benefitting from a loophole in the law. There is "no tax on food" in this country, but if you own a convenience store, or any low profit/high volume business, you are practicing good business, by trying to extract every fraction of your customer's dollars to keeep for yourself and avoid taxes. One way they can fudge things in their favor is to buy goods from a tax exempt supplier and now, with the new definitions, taking drinks, candy bars, and bags of chips out of the food exemption status, they get to charge customers an extra penny or two and keep it. Not really a big deal to most shop owners, but if you own Walmart you have many milllions in collected, but unpaid back taxes already.

I don't mind the sin taxes, so much, but if it goes in your mouth and you can swallow it, it should be called "food". We can re-define our sins in another bill, as they change or evolve.
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Re: i have given up drinking for good
« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2007, 03:45:41 AM »
I don't mind the sin taxes, so much, but if it goes in your mouth and you can swallow it, it should be called "food". We can re-define our sins in another bill, as they change or evolve.

Eh, one can eat lots of things which aren't food though. Liquor, cigarettes, crayons...

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Re: i have given up drinking for good
« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2007, 03:54:47 AM »
Remember, it is the pursuit that these lawmakers and lobbies are responding to and over-pursuit would be a sin, of course. Eating crayons, underwear, or an accidental insect or two is incidental and not considered by most law.
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Re: i have given up drinking for good
« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2007, 08:28:26 AM »
i drank 14 beers yesterday and 2 shots of vodka. im suprised i didnt tear my stoumach in half from vomiting. :laugh:
so now the only beer for me? rootbeer. :clap:

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Re: i have given up drinking for good
« Reply #42 on: April 21, 2007, 08:34:47 AM »
ive relapsed already!!, this cant be good. thank god im only drinking budweiser

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Re: i have given up drinking for good
« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2007, 03:40:22 PM »
Of course you relapsed. Did you seriously expect anyone to believe you quit for good?
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Re: i have given up drinking for good
« Reply #44 on: April 22, 2007, 05:07:15 PM »
People do manage it now and then.
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