Gas prices back under $2/Gallon in the US

[odeon]

^Of course, I don't count anything paid by my employer.

[El]

Our fuel prices are completely ridiculous, but that's because two thirds is tax.

How many hours a week do you have to drive, on average?

Well, to and from work, which is anything from fifteen minutes to thirty per trip. Sometimes out to lunch, perhaps another five minutes. Driving daughter to figure skating a couple of times a week is another ten or fifteen minutes.

It adds up.

Yeah.... I know it varies quite a bit by specific location (cities are obviously less), but my understanding is (broadly/on average) folks in Europe tend to have less distance they have to cover with their cars in the first place to get their needs met in their day-to-day lives.  My weekly driving average is... more.  And I live close to my job.

Not that that really makes it better, but I had to insert my "uphill, both ways" commentary, here.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

Not that that really makes it better, but I had to insert my "uphill, both ways" commentary, here.

pfft!!  you're lucky. Out here in Cali we have 6 foot snow drifts to deal with.   

[odeon]

Our fuel prices are completely ridiculous, but that's because two thirds is tax.

How many hours a week do you have to drive, on average?

Well, to and from work, which is anything from fifteen minutes to thirty per trip. Sometimes out to lunch, perhaps another five minutes. Driving daughter to figure skating a couple of times a week is another ten or fifteen minutes.

It adds up.

Yeah.... I know it varies quite a bit by specific location (cities are obviously less), but my understanding is (broadly/on average) folks in Europe tend to have less distance they have to cover with their cars in the first place to get their needs met in their day-to-day lives.  My weekly driving average is... more.  And I live close to my job.

Not that that really makes it better, but I had to insert my "uphill, both ways" commentary, here.

Yes, we supposedly live closer to where we work, here. Also, our societies are built differently from yours, according to a friend who lives in Indianapolis.

That was one of the things that struck me when I visited the US. I had planned to walk from the Pentagon Memorial to a mall that, according to a map, was within walking distance but realised that there was no way to do it. The place was built for cars only.

The same was true to varying degrees in Bethesda, but surprisingly, not so much in NY from the little I saw.

[Parts]

Our fuel prices are completely ridiculous, but that's because two thirds is tax.

How many hours a week do you have to drive, on average?

Well, to and from work, which is anything from fifteen minutes to thirty per trip. Sometimes out to lunch, perhaps another five minutes. Driving daughter to figure skating a couple of times a week is another ten or fifteen minutes.

It adds up.

Yeah.... I know it varies quite a bit by specific location (cities are obviously less), but my understanding is (broadly/on average) folks in Europe tend to have less distance they have to cover with their cars in the first place to get their needs met in their day-to-day lives.  My weekly driving average is... more.  And I live close to my job.

Not that that really makes it better, but I had to insert my "uphill, both ways" commentary, here.

Yes, we supposedly live closer to where we work, here. Also, our societies are built differently from yours, according to a friend who lives in Indianapolis.

That was one of the things that struck me when I visited the US. I had planned to walk from the Pentagon Memorial to a mall that, according to a map, was within walking distance but realised that there was no way to do it. The place was built for cars only.

The same was true to varying degrees in Bethesda, but surprisingly, not so much in NY from the little I saw.

That is starting  to change to some extent they are putting walk/bike lanes when they redo roads and bridges in a lot of areas.  One they built on the parkway near me is great not only because of the views  but before they built it there was only car lanes and if you were walking or on a bike it was about six miles just to reach the other side of the river

[odeon]

No wonder everyone was fatty fat and used crutches. The state forces everyone to use cars.

[Hannah]

not quiet awake enough to know what the crap odeon is talking about...but the gas prices are great for those who well are scraping to get by, thankfully and hopefully I have employment soon...

[Yuri Bezmenov]

not quiet awake enough to know what the crap odeon is talking about...

Just the usual America bashing that You're-a-peeins like to engage in.   

[odeon]

not quiet awake enough to know what the crap odeon is talking about...but the gas prices are great for those who well are scraping to get by, thankfully and hopefully I have employment soon...

It's a reference to past discussions here, especially by a certain departed member.

[odeon]

not quiet awake enough to know what the crap odeon is talking about...

Just the usual America bashing that You're-a-peeins like to engage in.   

[Yuri Bezmenov]

You're butthurt that I called you a You're-a-peein??   

[El]

Our fuel prices are completely ridiculous, but that's because two thirds is tax.

How many hours a week do you have to drive, on average?

Well, to and from work, which is anything from fifteen minutes to thirty per trip. Sometimes out to lunch, perhaps another five minutes. Driving daughter to figure skating a couple of times a week is another ten or fifteen minutes.

It adds up.

Yeah.... I know it varies quite a bit by specific location (cities are obviously less), but my understanding is (broadly/on average) folks in Europe tend to have less distance they have to cover with their cars in the first place to get their needs met in their day-to-day lives.  My weekly driving average is... more.  And I live close to my job.

Not that that really makes it better, but I had to insert my "uphill, both ways" commentary, here.

Yes, we supposedly live closer to where we work, here. Also, our societies are built differently from yours, according to a friend who lives in Indianapolis.

That was one of the things that struck me when I visited the US. I had planned to walk from the Pentagon Memorial to a mall that, according to a map, was within walking distance but realised that there was no way to do it. The place was built for cars only.

The same was true to varying degrees in Bethesda, but surprisingly, not so much in NY from the little I saw.

NY is friendlier to those without cars than those with them, to my understanding.  Boston is this screwy in-between mix that's hostile to everyone (you sort of need to drive, but parking is a shitshow).

And speaking of the contrast between them, a tangential but very true meme:

[El]

Not that that really makes it better, but I had to insert my "uphill, both ways" commentary, here.

pfft!!  you're lucky. Out here in Cali we have 6 foot snow drifts to deal with.   

*snort*  Yeah, my heart bleeds for you and your snow problems.

(Maybe a real moment of sympathy for your drought problems, though.)

[El]

No wonder everyone was fatty fat and used crutches. The state forces everyone to use cars.

No, really.  That's a big component.

Car dependency also contributes to social stratification, especially since Cash for Clunkers.  If you can't afford car repair, then you also can't afford to live someplace you don't need a car.

[Jack]

NY is friendlier to those without cars than those with them, to my understanding.

My understanding as well.