extinction rebellion is shit

[Conspiracy Nut]

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[Jack]

Much like when photosynthesis first happened. Very little or no oxygen in the atmosphere so the irony was that the first organisms poisoned the planet.

Know that was meant as a joke, but wasn't joking. The seemingly complete lack of any symbiosis is the only thing which has kept my mind open to the possibility humans aren't a natural occurrence. Queue crazy haired aliens guy meme.

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

Much like when photosynthesis first happened. Very little or no oxygen in the atmosphere so the irony was that the first organisms poisoned the planet.

Know that was meant as a joke, but wasn't joking. The seemingly complete lack of any symbiosis is the only thing which has kept my mind open to the possibility humans aren't a natural occurrence. Queue crazy haired aliens guy meme.

Humans probably do more symbiosis than any other organism. Farming, for example.

I'm guessing you didn't mean it quite like that. Organisms that destroy their own environment or fail to live sustainably or fail to adapt to changes (self-caused) in their environment go extinct.

And that is what will happen to us if we stay on our current course. There's nothing unnatural about it.

[Jack]

Much like when photosynthesis first happened. Very little or no oxygen in the atmosphere so the irony was that the first organisms poisoned the planet.

Know that was meant as a joke, but wasn't joking. The seemingly complete lack of any symbiosis is the only thing which has kept my mind open to the possibility humans aren't a natural occurrence. Queue crazy haired aliens guy meme.

Humans probably do more symbiosis than any other organism. Farming, for example.

I'm guessing you didn't mean it quite like that. Organisms that destroy their own environment or fail to live sustainably or fail to adapt to changes (self-caused) in their environment go extinct.

And that is what will happen to us if we stay on our current course. There's nothing unnatural about it.

Correct, didn't mean symbiosis with things which aren't naturally occurring. Not sure if it's possible to know if there's such a thing as a self-caused extinction. Maybe there's an example of how that has happened before and just don't know that's a natural thing. This is reminding me of an old discussion in which a member claimed multiple species would go extinct without humans, and I said there weren't any. Another member pointed out there are variants of lice which are solely dependent on humans, which made me contemplate the meaning of life being food and shelter to lice, yet can't even do that, instead kill the lice.

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

The first life forms likely changed the environment (by releasing large amounts of oxygen) and caused their own extinction. Odeon was alluding to that, I guess. There's no strong evidence of that because they were tiny, simple single cell organisms with no bones (probably).

[Jack]

Okay then, maybe we do agree. Humans are possibly naturally occurring, or possibly not naturally occurring...in theory.

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

Okay then, maybe we do agree. Humans are possibly naturally occurring, or possibly not naturally occurring...in theory.

Well the fact that we share 96% of our DNA with chimps. And 60% of our DNA with bananas. Seems to indicate that we evolved on this planet along with many other life forms.

[Jack]

Okay then, maybe we do agree. Humans are possibly naturally occurring, or possibly not naturally occurring...in theory.

Well the fact that we share 96% of our DNA with chimps. And 60% of our DNA with bananas. Seems to indicate that we evolved on this planet along with many other life forms.

Indeed, and the destructive nature of humans seems to indicate a potential to be the demise of every living thing, logically naturally occurring. Though that seems like a really weird thing to naturally occur. Like I said, it's the only thing that keeps that door open.

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

Okay then, maybe we do agree. Humans are possibly naturally occurring, or possibly not naturally occurring...in theory.

Well the fact that we share 96% of our DNA with chimps. And 60% of our DNA with bananas. Seems to indicate that we evolved on this planet along with many other life forms.

Indeed, and the destructive nature of humans seems to indicate a potential to be the demise of every living thing, logically naturally occurring. Though that seems like a really weird thing to naturally occur. Like I said, it's the only thing that keeps that door open.

Okay, now I'm getting where you are coming from.

New types of organisms come about by natural selection. There is no "design". So, while it might make no sense to design an organism that is likely to eventually cause its own destruction, there is nothing about the process of natural selection that would prevent such an organism from evolving, as long as the characteristics that would cause the organism to destroy itself in the long term contribute to the success of the organism from one generation to the next in the short term.

[Walkie]

Okay then, maybe we do agree. Humans are possibly naturally occurring, or possibly not naturally occurring...in theory.

Well the fact that we share 96% of our DNA with chimps. And 60% of our DNA with bananas. Seems to indicate that we evolved on this planet along with many other life forms.

Indeed, and the destructive nature of humans seems to indicate a potential to be the demise of every living thing, logically naturally occurring. Though that seems like a really weird thing to naturally occur. Like I said, it's the only thing that keeps that door open.

Okay, now I'm getting where you are coming from.

New types of organisms come about by natural selection. There is no "design". So, while it might make no sense to design an organism that is likely to eventually cause its own destruction, there is nothing about the process of natural selection that would prevent such an organism from evolving, as long as the characteristics that would cause the organism to destroy itself in the long term contribute to the success of the organism from one generation to the next in the short term.

Very nice bit of reasoning, but you're overlooking the "God is a sadist" theory 

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

I'm of the "God is imaginary" school.

Also Jack I probably sound like I'm being dismissive of your ideas. It's actually a very interesting philosophical position that my simple way of thinking simply doesn't take me to. That's probably why I didn't properly get what you were saying until that last post.

[Jack]

Also Jack I probably sound like I'm being dismissive of your ideas. It's actually a very interesting philosophical position that my simple way of thinking simply doesn't take me to. That's probably why I didn't properly get what you were saying until that last post.

There's nothing wrong with completely dismissive of it because the alternative is...aliens.

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

Also Jack I probably sound like I'm being dismissive of your ideas. It's actually a very interesting philosophical position that my simple way of thinking simply doesn't take me to. That's probably why I didn't properly get what you were saying until that last post.

There's nothing wrong with completely dismissive of it because the alternative is...aliens.

So are we aliens, or an alien-primate hybrid, or an ape genetically engineered by aliens?

I'll bet Reggie knows the answer.

[renaeden]

Reggie needs an avatar.

[Minister Of Silly Walks]

Here's one suggestion.