Al's got a point Odeon. All you are doing is spouting the opinion of all those scientists on global warming and climate change. What would they know? Fake news, that's what it is. Better to base your opinion of global warming and climate change on what the Cheetoh In Chief says about it. He's smart.
Odeon is not spouting that at all.
Odeon IS deflecting when I put his broad statements under a microscope.
Nothing on what I said would be argued by any scientist. Their models have NOT worked. They have not worked for the reasons I have said. The only contentious point is the degree than man affects the climate around him and how much management would help and in what form it would take to make a meaningful effect.
Scientists will make educated guesses as to this. They will try to model predictions and these invariably fail.
I think man affects the climate and so does Odeon and so do the scientists. Odeon does not know how much and neither do I. I do not pretend I know more than I do here. Odeon does pretend more than he knows.
Odeon pretends that he has the knowledge of the international scientific community and he does not. He also believes that they are all of one mind and arrive at the same conclusions as to the effects, and they don't.
He does not have the intellectual fortitude to admit that teh most he knows is that man has some effect on his climate. That is it.