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Re: The Wall
« Reply #75 on: January 15, 2019, 03:53:32 PM »
^^^That was a prototype that was being tested, not the actual wall being installed.   ::)

Of course the actual wall will be insurmountable. Obviously. Duh. :rofl:

If the US had been smart, we would've bought the Iron Curtain off of the former communist countries at the end of the cold war.

If we had done that, we would have probably 10.M fewer illegal Mexicans here.

Our wages would be higher and our rent/mortgages lower, not to mention less crime.   :M

So if you'd done (random unrealistic idea), your problems would be solved? Yes, I can see why you support him.
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Re: The Wall
« Reply #76 on: January 15, 2019, 04:02:18 PM »
If the US had been smart, we would've bought the Iron Curtain off of the former communist countries at the end of the cold war.

If we had done that, we would have probably 10.M fewer illegal Mexicans here.

Our wages would be higher and our rent/mortgages lower, not to mention less crime.   :M

The east block built that wall, partly to prevent people to escape to the west. (The short version).

Yes, I know. I visited the Iron Curtain in the spring of 1988 somewhere in northern Germany. We got a 2 hour lecture on the history of it and I remember enough.

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Do you see an analogy?

No, not at all. The Iron Curtain was built to keep its people from escaping to the west, not to keep westerners from invading in order to enjoy "the workers paradise".

Mexico hasn't built a wall to keep its workers from escaping because the Mexican economy has become dependent on Mexican nationals working and living in America, and sending their money south of the border to subsidize their corrupt political/economic structure.

If this flow of money was to be cut off, Mexico would either collapse, because the masses would no longer have enough money to live on, or they would have to enact sweeping reforms to root out the corruption that has had a stranglehold on their political system for roughly 70 years now.

The status quo can't continue. America needs to quit feeding Mexico's dysfunction.

That's pretty clever Pappy, relating Trump's wall as a metaphor to the Iron Curtain as a metaphor.

I wasn't doing that. The two situations are almost opposite, I don't see how anyone could make the connection if they looked at the 2 situations in anything other than the most simplistic terms.

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Agree re wages and property/rent prices. You gotta think about who in first world countries actually benefits from immigration. It ain't the working class or the middle class.

Exactly. That's the message that Caesar Chavez had 60 years ago. He hated illegal immigrants because he considered them to be union busting scabs.

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Re: The Wall
« Reply #77 on: January 15, 2019, 04:11:18 PM »
So if you'd done (random unrealistic idea),

Not unrealistic at all. Tear it down, box it up, send it over, reassemble it. We did the same thing with the former London Bridge which is now in Lake Havasu City




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Yes, I can see why you support him.

I don't "support" him. I only agree with him when he's right. I voted for Gary Johnson, do you have the memory of a goldfish??

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Re: The Wall
« Reply #78 on: January 15, 2019, 04:13:03 PM »
OMG, I thought it was just a failed analogy but you actually are that stupid.
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Re: The Wall
« Reply #79 on: January 15, 2019, 04:32:37 PM »
Pappy is taking the piss. He has to be.
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Re: The Wall
« Reply #80 on: January 16, 2019, 11:53:00 AM »
You think?
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Re: The Wall
« Reply #81 on: January 16, 2019, 11:59:31 AM »
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

- Albert Einstein

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Re: The Wall
« Reply #82 on: January 16, 2019, 08:11:21 PM »
Pappy is taking the piss. He has to be.

No, this is exactly what I was thinking when I was at the Iron Curtain back in '88.

If we had the same barrier between Mexico and the US, we could keep the illegals from flowing across our border.

Do you know how formidable the Iron Curtain was??

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Re: The Wall
« Reply #83 on: January 16, 2019, 08:17:49 PM »
Pappy is taking the piss. He has to be.

No, this is exactly what I was thinking when I was at the Iron Curtain back in '88.

If we had the same barrier between Mexico and the US, we could keep the illegals from flowing across our border.

Do you know how formidable the Iron Curtain was??

The Iron Curtain was a metaphor. I think it was coined by Winston Churchill, or at least popularised by him.

There was an actual barrier called the Berlin Wall. Is that what you mean?
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Re: The Wall
« Reply #84 on: January 16, 2019, 08:24:39 PM »
Pappy is taking the piss. He has to be.

No, this is exactly what I was thinking when I was at the Iron Curtain back in '88.

If we had the same barrier between Mexico and the US, we could keep the illegals from flowing across our border.

Do you know how formidable the Iron Curtain was??

The Iron Curtain was a metaphor. I think it was coined by Winston Churchill, or at least popularised by him.

There was an actual barrier called the Berlin Wall. Is that what you mean?

Fuck! you are as ignorant and retarded as all fucking get out!!   :fp:

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Re: The Wall
« Reply #85 on: January 16, 2019, 09:58:32 PM »
 :congrats:

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As you can see, I am currently lost for words.
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Re: The Wall
« Reply #86 on: January 16, 2019, 10:10:57 PM »
I just had a thought. Maybe they could buy the Bamboo Curtain from China? At least that'd be lighter and easier to ship.





(I'm joking if it wasn't painfully obvious)
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Re: The Wall
« Reply #87 on: January 17, 2019, 12:28:20 AM »
OK, now you're the one taking the piss.   :poo:

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Re: The Wall
« Reply #88 on: January 17, 2019, 12:59:00 AM »
OK, now you're the one taking the piss.   :poo:

Subtlety is not my strong suit.
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Re: The Wall
« Reply #89 on: January 17, 2019, 01:08:17 AM »
Republicans - Quietly think what Donald Trump says out loud.

That's literally all
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