People in the intelligence community are saying that McGivern only includes what he wants to believe.
But re what the investigation should be about: With people as stupid as Trump & Co, they shit all over the place, unable to help themselves. They aren't good at hiding their tracks. Of course they end up in the investigation.
Please don't pretend you knew who McGovern was. He used to be CIA himself and really got involved when he saw ex colleagues lying about the Iraq war. In reality he includes information that they don't like. The intelligence agencies lie about everything.
Politics is full of corruption. Trump and the Kushner family especially. Trump is too much of an outsider who is too independent to be trusted. The Clintons are far more corrupted but get away with everything. Though Mr Clinton was let off when he bombed Iraq. When impeachment was dropped he stopped bombing Iraq.
Not "was". "Is". He's not dead, just old. And I do know who he is, even though I'm betting our sources differ.
Na. He provides sources and has debunked 'Russiagate'. You just quickly looked him up on Wikipedia.
Actually his name first came up a long time ago, when Bush went to war. And I was discussing my sources as opposed to yours, not McGovern's. I'm guessing yours are still mostly whatever conspiracy theorists that are the current fad among kooks such as yourself, because let's face it, Benji, you're all over the place.
As for the current mess, McGovern's opinions carry little actual weight. I very much doubt he's got access to anything Mueller's investigation doesn't.
It did, but I doubt you knew anything about it. What are you doubting? Give me a list. You're the one pushing kooky conspiracy theories about Russian ghosts.
If Mueller had anything Trump would already be finished. He wouldn't be scrapping the barrel with hookers. It's embarrassing. Mueller is a proven crook and liar.
And it's utterly hilarious that now the US is pulling out, Al Qaeda has surrendered. And Israel bombed Syria on Christmas day. I've said from the start the US has been supporting Al Qaeda in Syria and that this is Israel's war and I've been proven right. You've been falling for CNN's garbage about the Mueller investigation for 2 and a half years and each conspiracy theory about Russia gets debunked but you never learn.
a) I'm not pushing anything. It's all over the news.
b) Mueller takes the time he needs. I'm sure Cohen, Flynn and Manafort all think it's embarrassing.
c) I'm not sure why you're talking about Al Qaeda, nor why you think you've been proven right. Or, for that matter, what you'd be right about. You're not making much sense.
d) Russia's meddling in the US election is a fact, not a theory. The question is about Trump's involvement in the Russian meddling.
Yes. You've been pushing the conspiracy theories about Russia and Trump for over 2 years, and yep the mainstream media has been pushing them too.
He's wasting taxpayers money on a sham investigation.
None of those have anything to do with 'collusion'.
I know you don't understand and it doesn't make sense to you.
With $4700 worth of Google ads? Are you fucking insane?
And oh dear, it's all going a bit wrong...
New Knowledge, a leading firm on Russia related cyber issues, was one of the two firms whose report on Russian activities during the presidential election was published by the Senate Intelligence Committee earlier this month.
The report claims that the Russians troll farms used all social media platforms and even mobile games such as Pokemon Go to influence the election and allegedly sway voters to President Trump.
“The scale was massive,” New Knowledge researchers wrote of Russian disinformation, with the alleged campaign “reaching 126 million people on Facebook, posting 10.4 million tweets on Twitter, uploading 1,000+ videos to YouTube, and reaching over 20 million users on Instagram.”
But the credibility of the cybersecurity firm took a hit after revelations in the New York Times that it collaborated with another firm, American Engagement Technologies, to replicate those very same alleged Russian tactics during the Alabama Senate race.
The secret effort, dubbed as the “Birmingham Project,” was facilitated by AET, a firm run by former Obama official Mikey Dickerson and funded by Silicon Valley billionaire Reid Hoffman, allocating $100,000 for the project.
The internal report of the Birmingham Project openly states that the group “ran a digital messaging operation to influence the outcome of the AL senate race” between September and December of 2017, according to BuzzFeed.
According to BuzzFeed, Dickerson and Sara Hudson, a former Department of Justice employee who went on to work for another firm funded by Hoffman, spoke at a private meeting in September where they said their secret project managed to suppress Republican votes, energize Democratic voters and plant a “false flag” against the Republican campaign.
The Birmingham Project's internal report also takes credit for the high Democratic turnout and a drop in Republican turnout and said their campaign led to increased votes for write-in candidates.
I can see that you only read and acknowledge what you want to acknowledge. How embarrassing for you.
I very much doubt Putin will oblige you by releasing his spending beyond a bunch of Google Ads that I don't know where you got from. Not particularly interested, me, because the figure is peanuts in pretty much any perspective (except maybe your yearly income). Did you honestly think that was it? Seriously, Benji? If you honestly think that number is worth repeating multiple times, I feel bad you. Well, sort of. As in "laughing my head off".
I'm not sure where you're cutting and pasting from, either, but again, it doesn't really interest me all that much. The facts of this case are emerging almost daily and they don't match your conspiracy theories at all. This goes for Ukraine as well, btw.
But I do like the neo Nazi angle; you should consider adding aliens.
Oh, and one final thing: it's rather revealing that you lot seem to think that if people oppose Trump, they have to cheer for Hillary or, for that matter, her husband or "the Democrats" in general as some kind of mythical but fairly homogeneous group. While I think that Hillary would have made a far, far better president than the orange moron (let's face it; my dog would be a far, far better president than Trump), I always thought that surely the opposing party must have something better to offer than a tainted former first lady. Yet in your single-mindedness (you, as in the kooks in and outside of this forum) it's the extent of your thinking, if one can indeed consider your randomly-firing neurons as the product of conscious thought. "Yeah, but look at what THE DEMOCRATS DID."
I don't blame you; it's hard to blame the idiot, after all, and it's what Trump did. I'm just saying that Steve Bannon would be proud.
