Trump pulls out of Syria, forces "Mad Dog" Mattis to resign.

[Calandale]

Um....  The wars were planned before 9/11.

Obviously. You think there's anywhere we DON'T have plans for?

Doesn't mean they'd get used.

[odeon]

Early Christmas present for Putin.

Money well spent.

Enough of the 'Russiagate' conspiracy theory.  If you think that Russia affected the result via $4700 of Google ads then just    There's zero evidence that Putin gave Trump money. 

But just prepare to look very silly

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/19/mueller-investigation-findings-914754

Benji dear, you still have reading comprehension issues. I didn't say Putin gave Trump money.

Deflecting.  You say that about everyone.  I was just covering both options to counter your conspiracy theory.

Actually I say that about you and Al. Stop blaming away your inability to understand what people say.

[odeon]

ISIS is not yet gone, Jack, and Russia is not particularly interested in making it so unless it helps them. They are there to help their ally, the president who had no problems with gassing his citizens, and to make sure that their interests in the region remain protected.

Iran, of course, is interested in defeating what remains of ISIS, but they're not the best of friends with the US as you know, and few others are interested in them taking any kind of active military role in the region. Quite the opposite.

I think pretty much everybody but Russia would prefer someone else - anyone else - than Trump to lead the US, and they would all like to see someone a bit more predictable and stable to do the leading.

The US can certainly retreat from the region but don't fool yourself by thinking that it will help anything.

When did Assad gas civilians?

Here's a handy timeline for you: https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Timeline-of-Syrian-Chemical-Weapons-Activity

[odeon]

Oh, and Benji, did you imply that Assad's use of chemical weapons is somehow justifiable if the targets aren't civilians? Please explain.

[Al Swearegen]

Early Christmas present for Putin.

Money well spent.

Enough of the 'Russiagate' conspiracy theory.  If you think that Russia affected the result via $4700 of Google ads then just    There's zero evidence that Putin gave Trump money. 

But just prepare to look very silly

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/19/mueller-investigation-findings-914754

Benji dear, you still have reading comprehension issues. I didn't say Putin gave Trump money.

Deflecting.  You say that about everyone.  I was just covering both options to counter your conspiracy theory.

Actually I say that about you and Al. Stop blaming away your inability to understand what people say.

...and you still do not comprehend that Russiagate is and always was bullshit

[odeon]

We'll find out, eventually, won't we? In the meantime, I'm keeping the popcorn handy and the beer chilled. Things aren't looking brilliant for your guy.

[benjimanbreeg]

Early Christmas present for Putin.

Money well spent.

Enough of the 'Russiagate' conspiracy theory.  If you think that Russia affected the result via $4700 of Google ads then just    There's zero evidence that Putin gave Trump money. 

But just prepare to look very silly

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/19/mueller-investigation-findings-914754

Benji dear, you still have reading comprehension issues. I didn't say Putin gave Trump money.

Deflecting.  You say that about everyone.  I was just covering both options to counter your conspiracy theory.

Actually I say that about you and Al. Stop blaming away your inability to understand what people say.

The claims are that Trump is indebted to Kremlin banks or that the Russians swung the election with ads so stop playing games.

[benjimanbreeg]

Oh, and Benji, did you imply that Assad's use of chemical weapons is somehow justifiable if the targets aren't civilians? Please explain.

He had no motive to kill civilians with gas.  The claims that 'he's killing his own people' are just recycled lies that were used in Iraq and Libya.  He gave up his chemical weapons.  The main attack in 2013 was carried out by the FSA who got the chemicals from Turkey.  They were on video boasting about their supplies at the end of 2012, singing Jihad and killing a rabbit and a hare.  Then Obama said about the red lines after the Jihadists had carried out 2 attacks and on the day the weapons inspectors were in town an attack was launched.  Turkey actually caught them and this was posted in an Irish newspaper.  The attack was blamed on Assad but after an OPCW investigation they said they couldn't say it was Assad as there was no chain of custody.  They then blamed the 2017 attack on Assad without a chain of custody.  This year they went in independently and found no evidence of a nerve agent attack.  Robert Fisk debunked the claims and other journalists interviewed alleged victims and people in the area.  There was no attack this year. 

[benjimanbreeg]

I don't condone any attacks on civilians.  Including Israel and the US's use of depleted uranium and white phosphorus. 

[benjimanbreeg]

We'll find out, eventually, won't we? In the meantime, I'm keeping the popcorn handy and the beer chilled. Things aren't looking brilliant for your guy.

Not according to the article I posted to you.  The findings may never be made public.  You've been talking about popcorn for over 2 years.  It's stale.  You were expecting him to get done for 'collusion' but there's zero evidence.  Just admit you were wrong.

[odeon]

Early Christmas present for Putin.

Money well spent.

Enough of the 'Russiagate' conspiracy theory.  If you think that Russia affected the result via $4700 of Google ads then just    There's zero evidence that Putin gave Trump money. 

But just prepare to look very silly

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/19/mueller-investigation-findings-914754

Benji dear, you still have reading comprehension issues. I didn't say Putin gave Trump money.

Deflecting.  You say that about everyone.  I was just covering both options to counter your conspiracy theory.

Actually I say that about you and Al. Stop blaming away your inability to understand what people say.

The claims are that Trump is indebted to Kremlin banks or that the Russians swung the election with ads so stop playing games.

I'm going to nice to you and explain the basics. Please keep this handy for future reference.

Putin & Co most likely invested a fair bit of money, not only to manipulate the election but long before that to entrap Trump and those close to him. Whether it was a hotel room with fun, games & cameras, the promise of a Trump Tower in Moscow, strategic loans or something else (or all of it) doesn't really matter. It's all being investigated and a number of people around Trump, from lawyers to short-lived National Security Advisors, are cooperating with the investigation, and we've seen glimpses of the directions that investigation is taking, I suspect there's a lot more we don't know.

To dismiss all this as a conspiracy theory makes you look naive in the extreme.

[odeon]

Oh, and Benji, did you imply that Assad's use of chemical weapons is somehow justifiable if the targets aren't civilians? Please explain.

He had no motive to kill civilians with gas.  The claims that 'he's killing his own people' are just recycled lies that were used in Iraq and Libya.  He gave up his chemical weapons.  The main attack in 2013 was carried out by the FSA who got the chemicals from Turkey.  They were on video boasting about their supplies at the end of 2012, singing Jihad and killing a rabbit and a hare.  Then Obama said about the red lines after the Jihadists had carried out 2 attacks and on the day the weapons inspectors were in town an attack was launched.  Turkey actually caught them and this was posted in an Irish newspaper.  The attack was blamed on Assad but after an OPCW investigation they said they couldn't say it was Assad as there was no chain of custody.  They then blamed the 2017 attack on Assad without a chain of custody.  This year they went in independently and found no evidence of a nerve agent attack.  Robert Fisk debunked the claims and other journalists interviewed alleged victims and people in the area.  There was no attack this year.

The WHO and quite a few others disagree with Fisk, to say the least, and they have the evidence to support their claims. I assume this is another one of your conspiracy theories.

[odeon]

We'll find out, eventually, won't we? In the meantime, I'm keeping the popcorn handy and the beer chilled. Things aren't looking brilliant for your guy.

Not according to the article I posted to you.  The findings may never be made public.  You've been talking about popcorn for over 2 years.  It's stale.  You were expecting him to get done for 'collusion' but there's zero evidence.  Just admit you were wrong.

 

I guess that's why Flynn, Cohen et al are accepting plea deals. Because of zero evidence.

The investigation is one of those rare gifts that keep on giving. Who says there can only be a single popcorn & beer session?

[Queen Victoria]

Every time I see this topic I think Trump is pulling out sexually from Syria.   

[benjimanbreeg]

Early Christmas present for Putin.

Money well spent.

Enough of the 'Russiagate' conspiracy theory.  If you think that Russia affected the result via $4700 of Google ads then just    There's zero evidence that Putin gave Trump money. 

But just prepare to look very silly

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/19/mueller-investigation-findings-914754

Benji dear, you still have reading comprehension issues. I didn't say Putin gave Trump money.

Deflecting.  You say that about everyone.  I was just covering both options to counter your conspiracy theory.

Actually I say that about you and Al. Stop blaming away your inability to understand what people say.

The claims are that Trump is indebted to Kremlin banks or that the Russians swung the election with ads so stop playing games.

I'm going to nice to you and explain the basics. Please keep this handy for future reference.

Putin & Co most likely invested a fair bit of money, not only to manipulate the election but long before that to entrap Trump and those close to him. Whether it was a hotel room with fun, games & cameras, the promise of a Trump Tower in Moscow, strategic loans or something else (or all of it) doesn't really matter. It's all being investigated and a number of people around Trump, from lawyers to short-lived National Security Advisors, are cooperating with the investigation, and we've seen glimpses of the directions that investigation is taking, I suspect there's a lot more we don't know.

To dismiss all this as a conspiracy theory makes you look naive in the extreme.

$4700 spent on Google ads by Russian companies.  Some were Pro Trump, some Pro Hillary and some were neither.  They were just there to steal info etc.  Yeah interesting conspiracy theories.  Nothing to do with collusion.