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Re: Trump pulls out of Syria, forces "Mad Dog" Mattis to resign.
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2018, 09:09:37 PM »
Trying to figure out who he'll put in charge now. On FB, my first guess was Kucinich.
Then Lennon, but the Senate might not confirm him - being dead and all.

I think it'll be Barbara Lee.

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Re: Trump pulls out of Syria, forces "Mad Dog" Mattis to resign.
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2018, 10:13:16 PM »
Trying to figure out who he'll put in charge now. On FB, my first guess was Kucinich.
Then Lennon, but the Senate might not confirm him - being dead and all.

I think it'll be Barbara Lee.

Probably Ted Nugent.

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Re: Trump pulls out of Syria, forces "Mad Dog" Mattis to resign.
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2018, 10:25:34 PM »
Damn.

Do you know why Mattis wanted to remain in Syria and Trump wanted the US out?
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Re: Trump pulls out of Syria, forces "Mad Dog" Mattis to resign.
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2018, 11:13:30 PM »
Damn.

Do you know why Mattis wanted to remain in Syria and Trump wanted the US out?
From what I can see, short story, Mattis planned to stay until the end and a political solution to the civil war established. Trump's objectives didn't expand beyond defeating ISIS, so he's calling it job done. Plus, it was a campaign promise.

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Re: Trump pulls out of Syria, forces "Mad Dog" Mattis to resign.
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2018, 01:17:32 AM »
The resignation letter was rather telling.
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Re: Trump pulls out of Syria, forces "Mad Dog" Mattis to resign.
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2018, 02:28:17 AM »
You'd think the Kurds would learn by now. But, I guess they have no real choice
with Syria-Russia-Iran all cozy together, and Turkey their sworn enemy.


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Re: Trump pulls out of Syria, forces "Mad Dog" Mattis to resign.
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2018, 04:13:55 AM »
Mattis is a warrior chief. War and conflict is what he knows. There will always be another conflict, another madman Authoritarian, another, another enemy.

Is this America's war? If so why?

Of course Mattis is not wanting to withdraw from Syria. Of course Trump would.
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Re: Trump pulls out of Syria, forces "Mad Dog" Mattis to resign.
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2018, 10:16:53 AM »
Early Christmas present for Putin.

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Re: Trump pulls out of Syria, forces "Mad Dog" Mattis to resign.
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2018, 11:51:24 AM »
You'd think iraq, afghanistan, both are so recent in history that he'd learn the lesson.

If you start trashing a country, pissing tons of people off big time, or exterminating some group of scumbags, be it the taliban, or saddam (not that in that case there was just cause for war, Saddam was a major-league dick, to be sure, but the WMD excuse, if  they had anything, it might have been a forgotton sarin or mustard shell loaded into a rusted, useless wreck of an old ass howitzer, or something like that, loaded and left unfired, while the iraqi army fucked off, etc.. No stash ever found, and  never will be either)

You leave a conflict like that un-finished, and look what happens, a power vacuum gets created. And what happens when you have a power vacuum? some group fills it. There might not be many nastier than ISIS but there are plenty of nasty packs of fundamentalist arseholes in the middle east. Leave the place a smoking wreck and don't bother finishing the job and tidying it up, people there, citizens, I mean, are going to hate your guts, and be ready for a scrap the next time the US interferes in syria. PISSED, because their homes were destroyed, families killed, etc. thats going to piss any nation off, big time.

And now the ISIS  forces have more or less been given a good kicking, who is going to end up in their place. At least in afghanistan we tried  to ensure there was a government. Syria is just a smoking crater, where chances are kids are going to be accidentally setting off unexploded ordnance for a long time to come and ending up as meatpaste. Government? WHAT government?

And assuming we haven't got each and every ISIS tosser, one left, means one still alive to espouse  the same  shit and try and get them going again.

Trump is a fucking moron, if you start a job, finish it. Or do not start it in the first place.

Of course in this case, not starting wasn't an option, ISIS had to go, because they were a murderous, raping, slave-dealing ancient archaeological site-defiling islamic sack of shit, and they needed to be burnt out of their hidey-holes, but to just walk off after the job is 3/4 done, thats asking for it.

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Re: Trump pulls out of Syria, forces "Mad Dog" Mattis to resign.
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2018, 11:55:48 AM »
Mattis is a warrior chief. War and conflict is what he knows. There will always be another conflict, another madman Authoritarian, another, another enemy.

Is this America's war? If so why?

Of course Mattis is not wanting to withdraw from Syria. Of course Trump would.

Just because it isn't doesn't mean we should reasonably be leaving our allies in the lurch
with a surprise withdrawal.

In a sense though, our commitment to the Kurds put us in a terrible situation. Their continued
existence will do so again and again. The best answer is to swallow the pill, and support a combined
effort by Erdogan and Assad to exterminate them, abandon these nations to their (and piss-boi's) master,
and work on what the Cheeto's supporters really desire - continuing to try and bring the apocalypse about.

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Re: Trump pulls out of Syria, forces "Mad Dog" Mattis to resign.
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2018, 01:31:42 PM »
Now he's talking about getting out of Afghanistan LOL.  Liberals and Neocons are having a fit  :hitler:  You have retarded liberals crowing for someone called "Mad Dog".  You've exposed yourself you fucking morons.  When you are criticising ending wars you have lost your minds.  You don't have a leg to stand on.  Russiagate is a dud and your Putin claims fall apart when Trump is talking about getting out of Afghanistan.  You're done.  I'm enjoying your salty tears bitches  :hahaha:
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Re: Trump pulls out of Syria, forces "Mad Dog" Mattis to resign.
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2018, 03:40:45 PM »


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Re: Trump pulls out of Syria, forces "Mad Dog" Mattis to resign.
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2018, 06:09:16 PM »
I remember in Bush's term that all of us on the Left said we wanted America to stop picking fights in the Middle East and how it was not our fight.

Times change but I don't
« Last Edit: December 21, 2018, 07:15:31 PM by Al Swearengen »
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Re: Trump pulls out of Syria, forces "Mad Dog" Mattis to resign.
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2018, 02:33:58 AM »
Early Christmas present for Putin.

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