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Re: No Spanking Laws
« Reply #45 on: January 21, 2007, 07:38:02 AM »
No. But a kid might not see the difference.
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Re: No Spanking Laws
« Reply #46 on: January 21, 2007, 10:50:31 AM »
OK, so I'm seeing a bell curve here.  There's an age before which it's not OK to hit someone, but is instead a criminal offense.  Then it's OK to hit them for awhile, and then at some point I believe it turns back into a crime.  (Not that most brawls involve spanking, but I'm pretty sure if you grabbed a person on the street and spanked them, it would be considered assault.)  So what's so magical about being a kid that makes it OK for you to be hit?
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Re: No Spanking Laws
« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2007, 11:04:35 AM »
Quote from: odeon on January 21, 2007, 07:09:30 AM
If you feel so guilty about it, then don't do it.

Do you teach your kids that beating other kids is wrong? How do you explain the difference between spanking (which really isn't that different from a 4-yo beating another kid) and beating?
it is definately something that i do not enjoy.

but i don't like doing some portions of my duties at work.
but i still do them because i have a job to do.

my job as a parent is to do my best to raise responsible social beings.
and there are certain portions of that that i really don't like to do, but i must.  in order to do my job as a parent effectively. 
really, it is much easier to be a lazy parent who lets their kids do anything.  no muss no fuss that way. and no hard feelings.  or is there?

Odeon, do you think that the rise in violence in public schools today is due to parents who spank.  is that teaching them violence?
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Re: No Spanking Laws
« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2007, 11:19:53 AM »
Quote from: McJagger on January 21, 2007, 11:04:35 AM
Odeon, do you think that the rise in violence in public schools today is due to parents who spank.  is that teaching them violence?

God, I hope not. While I'm against spanking, I do believe that the vast majority of parents that disagree with me on this are convinced that they do the right thing. It would be horrible if spanking would result in more violence.

You'd have to ask a psychologist or some kind of professional.
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Re: No Spanking Laws
« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2007, 03:10:52 PM »
Quote from: odeon on January 21, 2007, 11:19:53 AM
Quote from: McJagger on January 21, 2007, 11:04:35 AM
Odeon, do you think that the rise in violence in public schools today is due to parents who spank.  is that teaching them violence?

God, I hope not. While I'm against spanking, I do believe that the vast majority of parents that disagree with me on this are convinced that they do the right thing. It would be horrible if spanking would result in more violence.

You'd have to ask a psychologist or some kind of professional.

do you have an opinion?
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Re: No Spanking Laws
« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2007, 04:13:41 PM »
My guess is that in most cases, no. In some, it could have an effect, though, if the parent is going overboard or if the child's behaviour is totally beyond its control.
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Re: No Spanking Laws
« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2007, 04:18:46 PM »
Quote from: odeon on January 21, 2007, 04:13:41 PM
My guess is that in most cases, no. In some, it could have an effect, though, if the parent is going overboard or if the child's behaviour is totally beyond its control.

i have a theory that parents who are lazy in their job (being a parent) is what attributes to the rise in violence in our schools.
also, when i was a kid, we were spanked by the principle.  you knew that there would be consequences for your actions.

alot of people like to blame it on violence in videogames, and the media.  i blame the parents for not doing their job.
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Re: No Spanking Laws
« Reply #52 on: January 21, 2007, 04:42:09 PM »
Absolutely. I agree. The lazy parents have a big part in this. Still, I can't help suspecting that violence in media also plays a part. And let's not underestimate the news. They're full of violence, of people being robbed, yet another suicide bomb killing a dozen, conflicts, wars, and more violence, because that's what sells, and I think violence creates fear, and fear creates more violence.
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Re: No Spanking Laws
« Reply #53 on: January 21, 2007, 04:45:37 PM »
Quote from: odeon on January 21, 2007, 04:42:09 PM
Absolutely. I agree. The lazy parents have a big part in this. Still, I can't help suspecting that violence in media also plays a part. And let's not underestimate the news. They're full of violence, of people being robbed, yet another suicide bomb killing a dozen, conflicts, wars, and more violence, because that's what sells, and I think violence creates fear, and fear creates more violence.

i don't watch the news with my kids.

but i do let them watch the family guy.
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Re: No Spanking Laws
« Reply #54 on: January 21, 2007, 05:06:20 PM »
I don't watch news with my kids either. But there are plenty of parents that do. The lazy ones, remember?
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Re: No Spanking Laws
« Reply #55 on: January 21, 2007, 05:22:52 PM »
Quote from: odeon on January 21, 2007, 05:06:20 PM
I don't watch news with my kids either. But there are plenty of parents that do. The lazy ones, remember?

oh yeah.  the ones who won't do the right things to teach their kiddo's how to be responsible, social citizens, right?
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Re: No Spanking Laws
« Reply #56 on: January 21, 2007, 05:40:44 PM »
Speaking of responsible, what happened to Boston? I want him back!
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Re: No Spanking Laws
« Reply #57 on: January 21, 2007, 06:49:09 PM »
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Speaking of responsible, what happened to Boston? I want him back!
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Re: No Spanking Laws
« Reply #58 on: January 21, 2007, 06:50:32 PM »
Quote from: McJagger on January 21, 2007, 06:49:09 PM
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Speaking of responsible, what happened to Boston? I want him back!
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But he's all stretched up and weird now  :-\
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Re: No Spanking Laws
« Reply #59 on: January 21, 2007, 06:52:39 PM »
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