No Spanking Laws

[Icequeen]

Kind of wish they had an isolation room when I was going to school . I would have acted up just to get put in there away from the other kids.

I was a weird child.

['andersom']

Kind of wish they had an isolation room when I was going to school . I would have acted up just to get put in there away from the other kids.

I was a weird child.

Depends what kind of isolation it is. Locked up with someone guarding the door, as if you are kept prison, it would have completely freaked me out.
The option my kid has in primary school, to leave the classroom, and find a more quiet spot to work, that I would have loved indeed. And, when upset, there are hide-out places too.

[odeon]

If I remember correctly, there was this Jewish school who used shock treatment (irony) on their special needs students.
We had a discussion about it her in 2006. Somewhere.  Probably in the AS advocacy section.

Judge Rotenberg Educational Center

Cunts.

i remember that I went on a email campaign contacting several Jewish influence groups about their methods. Including the Simon Wiesenthal museum of tolerance.
I also, believe this was the main reason for the startup of THE WRONGED-AS advocacy forum.

Ah, yes. Whatever happened to that one?

[McGiver]

None of the Jewish groups got back with me.

And the wronged is probably defunct, like DD.

[Al Swearegen]

None of the Jewish groups got back with me.

And the wronged is probably defunct, like DD.

It is

[odeon]

That's a bit sad. Not unexpected but sad. Spazzes are not the kind of group to keep any kind of activism going for long.

[McGiver]

That's a bit sad. Not unexpected but sad. Spazzes are not the kind of group to keep any kind of activism going for long.

unless you take one of their sock puppets.

[odeon]

That's a bit sad. Not unexpected but sad. Spazzes are not the kind of group to keep any kind of activism going for long.

unless you take one of their sock puppets.

 

[El]

If I remember correctly, there was this Jewish school who used shock treatment (irony) on their special needs students.
We had a discussion about it her in 2006. Somewhere.  Probably in the AS advocacy section.

Th JRC, as mentioned.

The way the place is run pulls for abusiveness.  I think employees have to sign some kind of NDA, even.  It's horrifying.

I would never condone kids being taken away from their family because they spanked them.  That would harm a lot of children.  That would be silly and achieve nothing.   

Then what would be the legal consequences for spanking? Small fine similar to a parking ticket? How many tickets is too many?

The goal of such a law is to prevent it from happening rather than introducing petty fines with the expectation that the law will be ignored.

It seems that the countries who have already taken steps to ban all forms of corporal punishment have had desirable effects.  The focus being on education more than prosecution.

This article is a little dated, (2002) but does give an idea of how the policy has been working in places like Sweden.
http://www.nurseryworld.co.uk/news/725230/
 

Laws against physically punishing children have been used to educate parents rather than prosecute them. Jackie Cosh reports

Aban on smacking children was implemented in Sweden in 1979. Since then only four children have been killed after being assaulted by an adult, and only one of these was at the hands of a parent - one child in 23 years, compared with Britain's one child a week.

I'd like to know Sweden's baseline, though.  It's a powerful statistic, but it's backed up by comparing apples and oranges.

[TheoK]

I think there is less spanking of kids in Sweden than in most other countries. It's incredibly hard to know anything about child abuse of any kind, though. It's not like people tell you that they beat or are getting beaten.

[Al Swearegen]

Yes and the obvious flaw. Does smacking a childs backside for being naughty have the slightest correlation to child being beaten to deat?

[RageBeoulve]

Yes and the obvious flaw. Does smacking a childs backside for being naughty have the slightest correlation to child being beaten to deat?

The only connection is the desire people have to decide how to run everyone else's lives.

[odeon]

Yes and the obvious flaw. Does smacking a childs backside for being naughty have the slightest correlation to child being beaten to deat?

You are missing the point. They aren't talking about that kid being beaten to death, they are talking about indirectly preventing violent crimes later in life.

[odeon]

Yes and the obvious flaw. Does smacking a childs backside for being naughty have the slightest correlation to child being beaten to deat?

The only connection is the desire people have to decide how to run everyone else's lives.

Especially the kid's. S/he is the one who doesn't have a choice.

[odeon]

Yes and the obvious flaw. Does smacking a childs backside for being naughty have the slightest correlation to child being beaten to deat?

You are missing the point. They aren't talking about that kid being beaten to death, they are talking about indirectly preventing violent crimes later in life.

Replying to my own reply, here, but... I am talking about the overall statistics. The changed laws and their effects were big news, once, but the real benefit as advocated had less to do with the number of kids surviving childhood and more with the number of violent crimes later on. Lit, correct me if I remember this wrong.