"Shithole countries"

[Calandale]

Is this in reference to the unfettered flow of that VD noted above? 


https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/21/giuliani-made-up-robert-mueller-deadline-for-trump-probe-report.html

[benjimanbreeg]

I wouldn't give up just yet.

It's been over a year.  I know you want there to be 'collusion' but there's not a shred of evidence and Mueller is going for stuff that has nothing to do with Russia or collusion. 

If this was about justice and reality he could get him on collusion with Israel.  Flynn was talking to Russia as well as diplomats from other countries about vetoing a UN resolution about Israel's settlements on behalf of Israel.  Trump moved the Embassy for Israel.  Trump scrapped the Iran deal for Israel.  Trump bombed Syria for Israel.  All of these moves were against Russia's wishes and US allies have killed Russians in Syria.  Trump has removed Russian diplomats and kept the sanctions on them.  Trump has family ties with Netanyahu, with Bibi even sleeping in Jared Kushner's bed. 

But feel free to hold onto the fantasies about 'Russian collusion'.

[benjimanbreeg]

And Haiti is a shithole.

[Icequeen]

Oh look what came out of the woodwork. 

[Calandale]

I wouldn't give up just yet.

It's been over a year.  I know you want there to be 'collusion' but there's not a shred of evidence and Mueller is going for stuff that has nothing to do with Russia or collusion. 

If this was about justice and reality he could get him on collusion with Israel.  Flynn was talking to Russia as well as diplomats from other countries about vetoing a UN resolution about Israel's settlements on behalf of Israel.  Trump moved the Embassy for Israel.  Trump scrapped the Iran deal for Israel.  Trump bombed Syria for Israel.  All of these moves were against Russia's wishes and US allies have killed Russians in Syria.  Trump has removed Russian diplomats and kept the sanctions on them.  Trump has family ties with Netanyahu, with Bibi even sleeping in Jared Kushner's bed. 

But feel free to hold onto the fantasies about 'Russian collusion'.

Eh? Collusion is pretty much a given. Collusion is also not a crime.
Not even with Russia - nearly every president has done so since Hoover,
with the possible exception of Truman.


Several crimes have been uncovered and indicted. More seem likely to follow.
The only real suspense is if there's enough there to warrant more than just hauling
away Manafort for 80 years or so. And that may depend upon who else cracks.

[Icequeen]

Collusion happened.

Will it be what gets him impeached?

Doubtful.

Obstruction of justice, RICO violations,  violations of the emoluments clauses, etc...will work just fine though.

[Calandale]

When you consider what Nixon got brought down for, when he committed (known to President Johnson even) treason
during his campaign.....

[Icequeen]

Nixon was well into his 2nd term...before he resigned while staring impeachment in the face.

I really doubt Mango Mussolini will ever resign like Nixon did. Once they decide on impeachment, they vote on removal or disqualification.

My best liberal fantasy is removal and a jail term, but even disqualification from running a second term...fine.

It's a slow process in just about ANY country to remove a president, once they are in office, and that is the reality. 

[Al Swearegen]

Nope collusion did not happen.
There have been some crimes charged and even some guilty pleas. Nothing to do with collusion that helped Russians fix the election for Trump or whatever the narrative originally was.
Now on the basis that the FBI admitted that they did not think Flynn lied but they still charged him, WAS he lying and if not was he under duress?
The troll farms slam dunk does not seem as slam dunk and one of the charged companies does not seem to have even been around during the election.
The Mannafort case seem to be going off track a bit. As I have said before, I do not like Mannafort and never did. He is as shady as all fuck and Lewindowski was better.
Take it from me Rosenstein will be forced to recuse himself or be fired. Then the new acting AG will can the investigation. There will be outrage and it will settle down before the midterms.

[Icequeen]

Right. 

[benjimanbreeg]

I wouldn't give up just yet.

It's been over a year.  I know you want there to be 'collusion' but there's not a shred of evidence and Mueller is going for stuff that has nothing to do with Russia or collusion. 

If this was about justice and reality he could get him on collusion with Israel.  Flynn was talking to Russia as well as diplomats from other countries about vetoing a UN resolution about Israel's settlements on behalf of Israel.  Trump moved the Embassy for Israel.  Trump scrapped the Iran deal for Israel.  Trump bombed Syria for Israel.  All of these moves were against Russia's wishes and US allies have killed Russians in Syria.  Trump has removed Russian diplomats and kept the sanctions on them.  Trump has family ties with Netanyahu, with Bibi even sleeping in Jared Kushner's bed. 

But feel free to hold onto the fantasies about 'Russian collusion'.

Eh? Collusion is pretty much a given. Collusion is also not a crime.
Not even with Russia - nearly every president has done so since Hoover,
with the possible exception of Truman.


Several crimes have been uncovered and indicted. More seem likely to follow.
The only real suspense is if there's enough there to warrant more than just hauling
away Manafort for 80 years or so. And that may depend upon who else cracks.

So where's the evidence for 'collusion' then? 

[benjimanbreeg]

Collusion happened.

Will it be what gets him impeached?

Doubtful.

Obstruction of justice, RICO violations,  violations of the emoluments clauses, etc...will work just fine though.

It did?  You know something that no one else on earth knows then?  Where is the evidence?

[benjimanbreeg]

Nixon was well into his 2nd term...before he resigned while staring impeachment in the face.

I really doubt Mango Mussolini will ever resign like Nixon did. Once they decide on impeachment, they vote on removal or disqualification.

My best liberal fantasy is removal and a jail term, but even disqualification from running a second term...fine.

It's a slow process in just about ANY country to remove a president, once they are in office, and that is the reality.

Try to make a clear distinction between reality and what you want to be true.

[Calandale]

I wouldn't give up just yet.

It's been over a year.  I know you want there to be 'collusion' but there's not a shred of evidence and Mueller is going for stuff that has nothing to do with Russia or collusion. 

If this was about justice and reality he could get him on collusion with Israel.  Flynn was talking to Russia as well as diplomats from other countries about vetoing a UN resolution about Israel's settlements on behalf of Israel.  Trump moved the Embassy for Israel.  Trump scrapped the Iran deal for Israel.  Trump bombed Syria for Israel.  All of these moves were against Russia's wishes and US allies have killed Russians in Syria.  Trump has removed Russian diplomats and kept the sanctions on them.  Trump has family ties with Netanyahu, with Bibi even sleeping in Jared Kushner's bed. 

But feel free to hold onto the fantasies about 'Russian collusion'.

Eh? Collusion is pretty much a given. Collusion is also not a crime.
Not even with Russia - nearly every president has done so since Hoover,
with the possible exception of Truman.


Several crimes have been uncovered and indicted. More seem likely to follow.
The only real suspense is if there's enough there to warrant more than just hauling
away Manafort for 80 years or so. And that may depend upon who else cracks.

So where's the evidence for 'collusion' then?

He and his campaign staff have had meetings with, and worked with Russian officials both before and during his Presidency.




The question is WHAT the collusion related to. His pageant? Legitimate policy issues? The moscow real estate deal? Planks in the republican platform? Release of hacked information? Foreign intervention in the campaign itself?


Some of these would be fine. Some surround a crime, and may represent an additional crime (e.g. conspiracy) due to that.


But yeah, collusion? That shit's there.

[benjimanbreeg]

I wouldn't give up just yet.

It's been over a year.  I know you want there to be 'collusion' but there's not a shred of evidence and Mueller is going for stuff that has nothing to do with Russia or collusion. 

If this was about justice and reality he could get him on collusion with Israel.  Flynn was talking to Russia as well as diplomats from other countries about vetoing a UN resolution about Israel's settlements on behalf of Israel.  Trump moved the Embassy for Israel.  Trump scrapped the Iran deal for Israel.  Trump bombed Syria for Israel.  All of these moves were against Russia's wishes and US allies have killed Russians in Syria.  Trump has removed Russian diplomats and kept the sanctions on them.  Trump has family ties with Netanyahu, with Bibi even sleeping in Jared Kushner's bed. 

But feel free to hold onto the fantasies about 'Russian collusion'.

Eh? Collusion is pretty much a given. Collusion is also not a crime.
Not even with Russia - nearly every president has done so since Hoover,
with the possible exception of Truman.


Several crimes have been uncovered and indicted. More seem likely to follow.
The only real suspense is if there's enough there to warrant more than just hauling
away Manafort for 80 years or so. And that may depend upon who else cracks.

So where's the evidence for 'collusion' then?

He and his campaign staff have had meetings with, and worked with Russian officials both before and during his Presidency.




The question is WHAT the collusion related to. His pageant? Legitimate policy issues? The moscow real estate deal? Planks in the republican platform? Release of hacked information? Foreign intervention in the campaign itself?


Some of these would be fine. Some surround a crime, and may represent an additional crime (e.g. conspiracy) due to that.


But yeah, collusion? That shit's there.

Shall i repeat the question?

Still zero evidence.  Speculation is not evidence.  There's zero evidence that Russia hacked the DNC.  Maybe try switching off CNN for a few hours? 

As i said previously, Trump is doing a horrific job if he's a Russian puppet.  Brilliant Israeli puppet though.