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Re: Parasitic liars projecting their propaganda
« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2016, 12:34:31 PM »
They supported Suharto 20 years after he wiped out a third of the population in East Timor. 

Actually the US did intervene in the genocide of East Timor. This was one of the "grievances" that Al Qaeda had with the US.

What 20 years after the genocide?  I think the main grievances were the US's blocking of democracy in the Middle East and it's support for monsters and monster states.

8 years before it ended. FFS at least look at wiki.  ::)

OH, and at least bother looking at Al Qaeda's manifesto too, they specifically mention the US's intervention in East Timor as one of their reasons for declaring war.

Are you actually tying to claim that Al Qaeda was advocating for democracy in the Middle East??  :rofl:

They were supporting the genocide at it's worst point while they cried about other genocides committed by their enemies.  Are you suggesting again that the US suddenly felt the tug on their heart strings after 20 years? 

Al Qaeda has a manifesto?  ???  Do they?  You'll have to show me the source to that, i'm not taking the piss, it really is just news to me. 

Are you actually tying to claim that the US does or ever has??
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Re: Parasitic liars projecting their propaganda
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2016, 02:49:46 PM »
You really don't have anything do you?   :lol1:  You're a shell.  Was this more information you were oblivious to?  It's not a secret, it was even in the New York Times you ignorant cunt   :hahaha:

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/01/15/opinion/deception-on-capitol-hill.html

OMG, it was in the NY Times!

If only you had said so in the first place. :GA:

So you don't believe your beloved corporate media when they can no longer suppress the truth?  And human rights groups confirmed that the girl was lying.

You're completely missing my point which is that given your history, you have no credibility.


This has nothing to do with me you painfully stupid mong.

Oh, I see. Somebody else posted your tinfoil posts here, then. My mistake.
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Re: Parasitic liars projecting their propaganda
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2016, 03:18:15 PM »
They were supporting the genocide at it's worst point while they cried about other genocides committed by their enemies.  Are you suggesting again that the US suddenly felt the tug on their heart strings after 20 years?

That statement doesn't match the facts. FFS READ THE WIKI ARTICLE!! 

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Al Qaeda has a manifesto?  ???  Do they?  You'll have to show me the source to that, i'm not taking the piss, it really is just news to me.


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/military-july-dec96-fatwa_1996/

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Are you actually tying to claim that the US does or ever has??
:rofl:

Yes, and democratic nation building in the middle east has been an obvious failure.

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Re: Parasitic liars projecting their propaganda
« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2016, 07:14:07 AM »
A friend of mine once made a comment about me not choosing to interject myself in discussions/debates/arguments I was not interested in and choosing not to comment. They called my act of not doing so, tiptoeing. So here is an argument and I have no interest in it. But rather than be thought of as tiptoeing around or away from such arguments I will interject and in the way that you seemed to imply was the new standard.

You really don't have anything do you?   :lol1:  You're a shell.  Was this more information you were oblivious to?  It's not a secret, it was even in the New York Times you ignorant cunt   :hahaha:

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/01/15/opinion/deception-on-capitol-hill.html

OMG, it was in the NY Times!

If only you had said so in the first place. :GA:

So you don't believe your beloved corporate media when they can no longer suppress the truth?  And human rights groups confirmed that the girl was lying.

You're completely missing my point which is that given your history, you have no credibility.

You are being disingenuous

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disingenuous

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Full Definition of disingenuous
:  lacking in candor; also :  giving a false appearance of simple frankness :  calculating
disingenuously adverb
disingenuousness noun

There. By posting this definition, I made the point entirely and if you disagree I will repeat the claim a few times and then say I am not prepared to repeat myself anymore.

I paid attention, Odeon.
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Re: Parasitic liars projecting their propaganda
« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2016, 10:46:34 AM »
Is this how it's going to be from now on, Al? You and I both know that your reply has nothing whatsoever to do with my reply to Benji.

I'd think "butthurt" if I didn't know better.
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Re: Parasitic liars projecting their propaganda
« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2016, 05:33:42 AM »
Is this how it's going to be from now on, Al? You and I both know that your reply has nothing whatsoever to do with my reply to Benji.

I'd think "butthurt" if I didn't know better.

I don't know Odeon? You may wish asking me to evidence my claim or to mount a defence of my statement. You know, back myself. I would then rely on your standard, which would likely be throw another claim out there and repeat it and then tell you I am sick of doing so.

So in this case that new claim (equally as poor as the last - and unmeasurable, subjective and existentially unproveable) I will accuse your defence as being obfuscation

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verb (used with object), obfuscated, obfuscating.
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to confuse, bewilder, or stupefy.
2.
to make obscure or unclear:
to obfuscate a problem with extraneous information.
3.
to darken.

I can repeat both claims a few times and say they are both accurate and solid claims.
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Re: Parasitic liars projecting their propaganda
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2016, 02:44:44 PM »
They were supporting the genocide at it's worst point while they cried about other genocides committed by their enemies.  Are you suggesting again that the US suddenly felt the tug on their heart strings after 20 years?

That statement doesn't match the facts. FFS READ THE WIKI ARTICLE!! 

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Al Qaeda has a manifesto?  ???  Do they?  You'll have to show me the source to that, i'm not taking the piss, it really is just news to me.


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/military-july-dec96-fatwa_1996/

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Are you actually tying to claim that the US does or ever has??
:rofl:

Yes, and democratic nation building in the middle east has been an obvious failure.

Thanks Pappy, but I couldn't see anything about East Timor, if there was, it couldn't have said much.  It's just tripe from a lunatic. 

Lol, it's laughable to suggest that they are trying to build democracy when they've been blocking it for decades.  If a democratically elected leader nationalises the oil, the US will destroy the country, and they have.  They've been destroying nations, not building them.  Is supporting Saudi Arabia part of their democratic plan?  Who are bombing schools in Yemen with US and UK weapons. 
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Beware of the jester that sings"


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Re: Parasitic liars projecting their propaganda
« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2016, 08:39:55 AM »
Is this how it's going to be from now on, Al? You and I both know that your reply has nothing whatsoever to do with my reply to Benji.

I'd think "butthurt" if I didn't know better.

I don't know Odeon? You may wish asking me to evidence my claim or to mount a defence of my statement. You know, back myself. I would then rely on your standard, which would likely be throw another claim out there and repeat it and then tell you I am sick of doing so.

So in this case that new claim (equally as poor as the last - and unmeasurable, subjective and existentially unproveable) I will accuse your defence as being obfuscation

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verb (used with object), obfuscated, obfuscating.
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to confuse, bewilder, or stupefy.
2.
to make obscure or unclear:
to obfuscate a problem with extraneous information.
3.
to darken.

I can repeat both claims a few times and say they are both accurate and solid claims.

Butthurt it is, then. ::)
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Re: Parasitic liars projecting their propaganda
« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2016, 04:02:37 AM »
Is this how it's going to be from now on, Al? You and I both know that your reply has nothing whatsoever to do with my reply to Benji.

I'd think "butthurt" if I didn't know better.

I don't know Odeon? You may wish asking me to evidence my claim or to mount a defence of my statement. You know, back myself. I would then rely on your standard, which would likely be throw another claim out there and repeat it and then tell you I am sick of doing so.

So in this case that new claim (equally as poor as the last - and unmeasurable, subjective and existentially unproveable) I will accuse your defence as being obfuscation

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obfuscate
[ob-fuh-skeyt, ob-fuhs-keyt]
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verb (used with object), obfuscated, obfuscating.
1.
to confuse, bewilder, or stupefy.
2.
to make obscure or unclear:
to obfuscate a problem with extraneous information.
3.
to darken.

I can repeat both claims a few times and say they are both accurate and solid claims.

Butthurt it is, then. ::)

That would certainly be a disingenuous answer made solely for the purpose of obfuscation. Not that I have a problem with you being either disingenuous or your misrepresentation.
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Re: Parasitic liars projecting their propaganda
« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2016, 11:11:48 AM »
 :deadhorse2:
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Re: Parasitic liars projecting their propaganda
« Reply #40 on: April 29, 2016, 09:34:20 PM »
:deadhorse2:

Repeating the same baseless claim over and over is :deadhorse2:
I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

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Re: Parasitic liars projecting their propaganda
« Reply #41 on: April 29, 2016, 10:56:34 PM »
It takes a long time to eat a whole horse.  :zoinks:
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Re: Parasitic liars projecting their propaganda
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2016, 12:48:09 AM »
It takes a long time to eat a whole horse.  :zoinks:

  Don't eat that one.  You don't know how long it's been lying there.  :M
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Re: Parasitic liars projecting their propaganda
« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2016, 03:31:56 AM »
:deadhorse2:

Repeating the same baseless claim over and over is :deadhorse2:

So flamebaiting is the obvious solution?
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Re: Parasitic liars projecting their propaganda
« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2016, 06:33:41 PM »
:deadhorse2:

Repeating the same baseless claim over and over is :deadhorse2:

So flamebaiting is the obvious solution?

No it is simply adapting to your new argument structure. I can do it equally as well. You would notice in our first callout that there was  a lot more even and take and the reason for that is based on the fact that your method of argument was not as poor as this one. But this one of weak subjective and unsubstantial claims repeated over and over with the definition of the claim offered as evidence of what is being claimed is something anyone can do. You can argue whether the fact that we can do something is any argument as to whether we should But I may call that flamebaiting or perhaps disingenuous or perhaps obfuscation. Then show you the definition and repeat the claim over and over.
I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

How to apologise to Scrap