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Re: racism in education
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2010, 09:08:17 AM »
We should care because it's still there, just not as out in the open as it used to be. 

I love it when straight white males bitch about how affirmative action is no longer needed.

I love how straight white males are a total minority, but still want things to just smooth over because they nowadays have nothing to do with what happened.

We weren't even born yet! What the fuck?
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Re: racism in education
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2010, 09:11:01 AM »
Its almost like people just want something to be mad at.
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Re: racism in education
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2010, 09:12:25 AM »
We should care because it's still there, just not as out in the open as it used to be. 

I love it when straight white males bitch about how affirmative action is no longer needed.

I love how straight white males are a total minority, but still want things to just smooth over because they nowadays have nothing to do with what happened.

We weren't even born yet! What the fuck?

Minority? :lol:

It may be in the past for you because it doesn't affect you at all. It isn't for those people who are still getting discriminated against just because of their skin colour.

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Re: racism in education
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2010, 09:14:06 AM »
They aren't.
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Re: racism in education
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2010, 09:15:00 AM »
At least not in america. As a matter of fact a lot of black people openly think the word nigger is funny.
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Re: racism in education
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2010, 09:23:21 AM »
So why do black people get followed in shops by security? Why do stop-and-search statistics show that policemen are more likely to stop a black person? Why are there still ghettos in America? I've been to Baltimore and I saw just how scary the difference between rich white areas and black poor areas is.

Again, just because it doesn't affect you, doesn't mean it's not there. You, as a straight white male, are in the most privileged position in this society. It's okay for you to be selfish and say "screw the ethnic minorities" but it's not okay for you to say that racism no longer exists as that's a lie.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2010, 03:40:43 PM by Binty »

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Re: racism in education
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2010, 09:25:29 AM »
So why do black people get followed in shops by security? Why do stop-and-search statistics show that policemen are more likely to stop a black person? Why are there still ghettos in America? I've been to Baltimore and I saw just how scary the difference between rich White areas and black poor areas are.

Again, just because it doesn't affect you, doesn't mean it's not there. You, as a straight white male, are in the most privileged position in this society. It's okay for you to be selfish and say "screw the ethnic minorities" but it's not okay for you to say that racism no longer exists as that's a lie.

You're not taking into account that those areas of american society are really quite tiny. You'll have slums anywhere you go, and here in indiana its all toothless white trash. There are tons of rich black people.
"I’m fearless in my heart.
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I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
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Re: racism in education
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2010, 09:33:31 AM »
They aren't tiny. Sure there are poor white people too but it's easier for a white person to get rich. Also if a black person gets a good job, people are more likely to say it's because of affirmative action and not their own capabilities.

Also it's impossible for racism to ever disappear because it's natural, bad but natural. The only thing we can do is fight against it.

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Re: racism in education
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2010, 09:41:51 AM »
When I say it, I mean it. Racism means absolutely nothing to me, and I am completely ambivalent to it. If I had my way, i'd erase it, and redistribute wealth.
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Re: racism in education
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2010, 09:56:28 AM »
Why fight racism when it can't be eradicated? A fruitless battle.

The closest thing to stop racism is people to stop taking it out of context and in general stop being whiny cunts about it. In other words, complete apathy until nobody cares enough to get insulted by it. Also, the blacks etc. should stop enforcing their stereotypes and using the race card. They are just as bloody smart as the rest of us, fucking grow up and get that chip off your shoulders. ::)
« Last Edit: November 08, 2010, 10:00:55 AM by Shleed. »

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Re: racism in education
« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2010, 10:03:15 AM »
I said if I had my way. ;)

But I agree with shleed. Its stupid.
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Re: racism in education
« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2010, 02:37:45 PM »
Fighting racism is never stupid.
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Re: racism in education
« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2010, 02:39:16 PM »
Fighting racism is never stupid.

 :agreed:

But isn't having a color blind society incompatible with affirmative action?

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Re: racism in education
« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2010, 03:07:43 PM »
But isn't having a color blind society incompatible with affirmative action?

Affirmative action doesn't work because it *is* a form of racism. Example: They'll choose an employee because he's black rather than his work experience or education to fufill their "diversity quota". While this is seen as a way to combat racism, it's really doing the opposite effect. It's enforcing it. Positive racism is still racism.

I believe race should not be a factor in jobs, education etc. It's not racist to not pick a black guy simply because the white guy is more qualified for the job, despite what some think. If the black guy is more qualified, then he'll get the job. Sadly people will have you believe otherwise because so and so minority will claim it's the government etc. putting them down, when in reality it's themselves. Those black kids who get into gangs, drugs etc. are only doing it because they *chose* to, using anything but themselves (some using the race card) to blame. They can easily better themselves and improve the conditions of their community if they bothered to continue their education, stopped being annoying cunts and actually get a job without appearing like some idiot. It *is* possible and many blacks have done so, the rest should get off their arses and do the same; if they want equality then they should contribute to society in equal terms.

As for the guilt nonsense, I don't care that white people pissed them about and turned them to slaves. I wasn't fucking born then, *they* weren't born then... so why should anyone care? Sure the past was cruel, but we need to move on and think of the present and future. None of this "black history month" bollocks in the US, "sorry day" in Aussieland and so on.

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Re: racism in education
« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2010, 03:29:17 PM »
Fighting racism is never stupid.

Racism is though.
"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"