Saudi clerics ruin Islam

[sg1008]

Sorry, not meaning to represent the whole entire community. Just trying to qualify the perspective as one from within Islam, as opposed to an outsider critic. Maybe I didn't explain that well... I am trying to say...this is "insider information".

[Gopher Gary]

Just trying to qualify the perspective as one from within Islam, as opposed to an outsider critic.

Are you an Islamic insider? 

[sg1008]

Just trying to qualify the perspective as one from within Islam, as opposed to an outsider critic.

Are you an Islamic insider? 

Not really. My teacher is though.

['Butterflies']

There are too few of them to "ruin Islam".

In a way they already have in getting people to think of their nutty version of it when ever Islam is mentioned.

On a side note the very first friend I made when I went away to college was the son of one of the Saudi diplomats at the UN,  he was about as Muslim as I am Catholic and would have been very happy if he never had to set foot in Saudi Arabia ever again he hated the place and everything it represented,  it didn't stop him from cashing the check he got at the end of every month from them though

I don't know why anyone with a ton of money stays there. Except maybe they enjoy subjugating women and beheading apostates.   

Actually, that does sound like a lot of fun. Especially the beheading bit

[Gopher Gary]

Just trying to qualify the perspective as one from within Islam, as opposed to an outsider critic.

Are you an Islamic insider? 

Not really. My teacher is though.

Have you been insider? 

[odeon]

Just trying to qualify the perspective as one from within Islam, as opposed to an outsider critic.

Are you an Islamic insider? 

Not really. My teacher is though.

What does that even mean?

['andersom']

Pressure cooker at the moment, looking at Islam.

Maybe that is what makes a woman like Ayaan Hirsi Ali mildly optimistic about an Islam reformation. She's hoping for growing heresy, and seeing it happen too. She calls for a backing up and supporting of Muslim reformers.

[odeon]

I meant, using the term "insider" about a teacher. It's a bit like labeling my old religion teacher as a Christianity insider.

['andersom']

I meant, using the term "insider" about a teacher. It's a bit like labeling my old religion teacher as a Christianity insider.

I once was an insider too.
Now I am an interested and pretty well informed outsider, when it comes to some types of Christianity.

[odeon]

I meant, using the term "insider" about a teacher. It's a bit like labeling my old religion teacher as a Christianity insider.

I once was an insider too.
Now I am an interested and pretty well informed outsider, when it comes to some types of Christianity.

It's sort of pointless, though, isn't it? Even with Christianity, there are simply too many factions. There is no such thing.

[MLA]

I meant, using the term "insider" about a teacher. It's a bit like labeling my old religion teacher as a Christianity insider.

I once was an insider too.
Now I am an interested and pretty well informed outsider, when it comes to some types of Christianity.

It's sort of pointless, though, isn't it? Even with Christianity, there are simply too many factions. There is no such thing.

That was my same point.  Saying one is an "insider" to Islam sounds crazed as Islam is made up of several factions who hate each other.

['andersom']

I meant, using the term "insider" about a teacher. It's a bit like labeling my old religion teacher as a Christianity insider.

I once was an insider too.
Now I am an interested and pretty well informed outsider, when it comes to some types of Christianity.

It's sort of pointless, though, isn't it? Even with Christianity, there are simply too many factions. There is no such thing.

 

[odeon]

It would be cool if somebody actually had some inside information to contribute.

[Jack]

It would be cool if somebody actually had some inside information to contribute.

Like from actual clerics and government leaders? Would you believe it?

[MLA]

It would be cool if somebody actually had some inside information to contribute.

Like from actual clerics and government leaders? Would you believe it?

No, from Jesus himself.  Or Mohammadamadingdong.