U.S. Air Strikes in Syria

[bodie]

Too much oil. 

[odeon]

Which is why they went in in the first place.

[bodie]

It would be smokin for a while 

[odeon]

Some problems would be solved for a long time to come.

[bodie]

Yes but there would be a lot of tears to mop up.  I am sure it would make some western leaders cry a little.


Then, we would have to put up with frantic fracking everywhere as the world panics

[odeon]

They would weep for the oil.

[Jack]

They they they. Le eyes roll.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

It would be smokin for a while 

No, that's why they make neutron bombs. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_bomb

[RageBeoulve]

I'm not usually in favour of the US starting wars in the middle east, but I'd say that everyone benefits from someone doing something about the Islamic State.

But how do you fight an idea?  air strikes can do damage,  ground troops can also do some damage and harm themselves in the process.  You can obliterate infrastructure, buildings, homes, land even countries but then the same threat pops up somewhere else!  So many people have the same idea

It's like Whackamole but without the fun bit 

This particular idea is punishing civilians for the airstrikes even as I write this. I certainly agree with you that the idea will take a different form and reappear somewhere else if you destroy the capabilities of the current embodyment, but in the short term, something needs to be done.

There was an Army Major on newsnight yesterday giving his take on things.  He said air strikes alone won't work without boots on the ground.  No one wants to send their own troops in.  He said that the allies were going to be training the Iraq army,  the Free Syria Army and locals from Jordan.

I don't want to sound pessimistic but I can see several major flaws in training and arming shepherds who don't even have proper shoes on their feet!   

Prepare for the eternal war me thinks.

Agreed. It might be better for them to send in troops themselves. Or nuke the Middle East.

 

[Jack]

Agreed.

[RageBeoulve]

Agreed.

 

[odeon]

Agreed.

Is that a no to nuking the Middle East?

[bodie]

I believe it was not a serious solution.

[Yuri Bezmenov]

I was serious about the neutron bombs. 

[Hannah]

Oh boy what 

Let's see...anyone who uses there 'religion' as an excuse to behead people frankly any excuse to behead folks (saw off heads really they don't even do it correctly)...needs to be killed because frankly they cannot and will not function in a somewhat civil society (because they choose not to)

that said, how do you fight an idea? My take on that one is to be the change myself by not giving an audience to their steaming piles of poo...IE don't watch the video's (I saw one of those a long rear time ago not even related to this, one is enough thanks) 

Be the change yourself in a positive way, not just by typing it, or saying it but by living it...

For example, my faith or as some of you might view religion has actually kept me sane...isn't that what it is supposed to do? well at least for me it has, it with my willingness to change to better myself has kept me afloat in hard times (hanging in there when life happens) and it has been something I've been able to anchor myself to and point to as a beacon of hope...not just in what I say but what I do...

I don't see any change for the better in this as far as an idea goes it's pure evil in it's most twisted form, and it's easy to take life (including to go out with a bang for the cause as in a person themselves)

but it isn't as easy to extend mercy or grace now is it? It isn't as easy to be the change for better? but it's worth it...that is something I will bank on and if need be put my life on the line for if it comes to that (hopefully not...)

Every life on this planet is precious in my humble opinion, and any force form or person who chooses to take life well what goes around will come around eventually...these folks will reap what they sow and I shudder to think what they will reap...but they bring that upon themselves...

In closing, I really don't have much to add other then what was said above...seems being a decent human being has gone out the window along with a lot of other things...