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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #165 on: March 01, 2014, 05:17:51 PM »
I just think this- if the equations he apparently busts out are fake, then he has schizophrenia. If they are real equations, then he is aspie.
Not really understanding this thought process.

Well, if he is doing fake equations then it is some kind of delusion or confusing thought process, which makes sense for a schizophrenia diagnosis. If the equations on the other hand are not delusions and factoring in his logical conversations and interactions, he is most likely misdiagnosed.
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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #166 on: March 02, 2014, 04:09:38 AM »
I just think this- if the equations he apparently busts out are fake, then he has schizophrenia. If they are real equations, then he is aspie.
Not really understanding this thought process.

Well, if he is doing fake equations then it is some kind of delusion or confusing thought process, which makes sense for a schizophrenia diagnosis. If the equations on the other hand are not delusions and factoring in his logical conversations and interactions, he is most likely misdiagnosed.

It doesn't follow. Have a look at what John Nash was up to in the 80s.
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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #167 on: March 02, 2014, 05:05:56 AM »

Yes, but he is too logical to be schizophrenic.
Sigh. Maybe best to just leave the topic alone, like you said.

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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #168 on: March 02, 2014, 07:13:11 AM »
I just think this- if the equations he apparently busts out are fake, then he has schizophrenia. If they are real equations, then he is aspie.
Not really understanding this thought process.

Well, if he is doing fake equations then it is some kind of delusion or confusing thought process, which makes sense for a schizophrenia diagnosis. If the equations on the other hand are not delusions and factoring in his logical conversations and interactions, he is most likely misdiagnosed.

Why pathologize this behavior?
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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #169 on: March 02, 2014, 11:43:19 AM »
I just think this- if the equations he apparently busts out are fake, then he has schizophrenia. If they are real equations, then he is aspie.
Not really understanding this thought process.

Well, if he is doing fake equations then it is some kind of delusion or confusing thought process, which makes sense for a schizophrenia diagnosis. If the equations on the other hand are not delusions and factoring in his logical conversations and interactions, he is most likely misdiagnosed.

Why pathologize this behavior?


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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #170 on: March 02, 2014, 02:15:25 PM »
Now that makes sense. :M

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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #171 on: March 02, 2014, 04:05:30 PM »
If you don't want to gossip about him here, then don't .

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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #172 on: March 02, 2014, 04:11:02 PM »
If you don't want to gossip about him here, then don't .

I'm not gossipping. Wanted to share a story.....and couldn't include all details. Then you responded as if I was saying anyone with schizophrenia does not know how to do equations and that is not what I was saying AT ALL.
Can't you guys even just imagine it?

Forget practicality, or your experience....can you just....imagine?

It's there. It always was.

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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #173 on: March 02, 2014, 04:14:29 PM »
Armchair diagnosis just irritates me in general, SG. Nothing personal. Didn't mean to botch your story.

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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #174 on: March 02, 2014, 04:17:20 PM »
There, deleted it. Won't post about such things ever again for fear someone will assume I am making a statement about an entire population. I don't appreciate being talked to as if I said people with schizophrenia cannot not have a high IQ, or cannot do equations. Never said it, never meant it, never even thought it. I know very intelligent ppl with schizophrenia as well. My uncle among them. What I think about people with schizophrenia, and pointing out a possible misdiagnosis to a staff which has never heard of aspergers, are two different conversations.

Can't you guys even just imagine it?

Forget practicality, or your experience....can you just....imagine?

It's there. It always was.

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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #175 on: March 02, 2014, 04:20:54 PM »
No need to delete anything. Your wording was what it was, and just misunderstood obviously.

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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #176 on: March 02, 2014, 04:35:53 PM »
Sent you a pm; wont make things worse.

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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #177 on: March 02, 2014, 05:38:32 PM »
There, deleted it. Won't post about such things ever again for fear someone will assume I am making a statement about an entire population.

Yes, keep pitching a fit.  :smashviolin: Is that what this place has come to? Please tell me I'm not watching a PC-language walking-on-eggshells snitfest.
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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #178 on: March 03, 2014, 06:25:36 PM »
There, deleted it. Won't post about such things ever again for fear someone will assume I am making a statement about an entire population.

Yes, keep pitching a fit.  :smashviolin: Is that what this place has come to? Please tell me I'm not watching a PC-language walking-on-eggshells snitfest.
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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #179 on: March 05, 2014, 04:44:00 AM »
Nah Jack, I don't feel like shells. I don't think I've ever gone and deleted stuff before--That was me throwing a rage. I couldn't get my meaning across without being misinterpreted and it made me  :GA:. Not that it needs explanations. In real life people throw rages too and we're allowed to do that so long as we don't go on and hurt people, which I'd never dream of.
Can't you guys even just imagine it?

Forget practicality, or your experience....can you just....imagine?

It's there. It always was.