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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #120 on: October 20, 2013, 05:42:37 AM »
Also, the higher the IQ the higher the probability of suffering from a mental disorder

Not necessarily true. There are studies that indicate the opposite.
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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #121 on: October 20, 2013, 06:04:57 AM »

So what did *he* say, apart from claiming that people with high IQs are not disabled?

Did he say that? Read it as him explaining that a person with high IQ, who is not disabled, might seek out MENSA to be around those people. That high IQ people are just different from other people, like people with autism.


High IQ can be like autism, only that you are not disabled. That's why you want to be around those people.

Eh? Were you trying to make sense again?

Maybe we're just reading him different. Maybe I'm the one who needs the translation.

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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #122 on: October 20, 2013, 06:14:11 AM »
Many people with high IQ are not that different from "average" people. Many people with high IQ are surprisingly conformist.

I find most eccentric people having a higher IQ than average but not an extremely high IQ.

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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #123 on: October 20, 2013, 06:15:04 AM »
Which only goes to show that very few, if any, assumptions can and should be made about people with high IQs.
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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #124 on: October 20, 2013, 06:20:43 AM »
But this is just making assumptions about why the top 2 percent with high IQ might want to join MENSA. You did wonder why. Don't know why, but assuming it's just an ego trip doesn't seem right to me either.
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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #125 on: October 20, 2013, 10:44:16 AM »
Actually the last few comments seemed to be about more than just why some would want to join MENSA. I could be wrong, though.
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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #126 on: October 20, 2013, 11:38:27 AM »
Actually the last few comments seemed to be about more than just why some would want to join MENSA. I could be wrong, though.

It's because he uses the word 'you'. Had the same reaction when he did it to me, but it's natural for me to read it as me. Could have been wrong as well.

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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #127 on: October 20, 2013, 01:24:07 PM »
Lit's comments were about more than just MENSA, though.
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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #128 on: October 20, 2013, 01:36:09 PM »
Am I using 'you' wrong (i.e. not using 'people', 'someone', 'people on this board' to be more specific), or is it that you are also not a native speaker and therefore interpret it wrong?

Example from this thread:

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High IQ can be like autism, only that you are not disabled. That's why you want to be around those people.

Afaik that is 100% legitimate usage. Synonymous with:

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High IQ can be like autism, only that [the person with high IQ is] not disabled. That's why [a person with high IQ would] want to be around those people.

or:

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High IQ can be like autism, only that you are not disabled [if you were a person with high IQ, generally speaking]. That's why you want to be around those people [if you were that person/in the situation/the mentioned circumstances applied/etc., generally speaking].


Who would interpret:

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High IQ can be like autism, only that you [who has a high IQ and therefore are that person specifically] are not disabled. That's why you want to be around those people [because you are that exact person with high IQ].

Or what? Doesn't make sense to me tbh.
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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #129 on: October 20, 2013, 01:39:56 PM »
Actually it's just that you aren't particularly good at expressing yourself.
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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #130 on: October 20, 2013, 01:43:13 PM »
Am I using 'you' wrong (i.e. not using 'people', 'someone', 'people on this board' to be more specific), or is it that you are also not a native speaker and therefore interpret it wrong?
Just re-read Odeon's post and realize I misunderstood. Thought he said, 'seemed to be about me'. Not sure why. A little foggy today. You're not using it wrong; it's my own quirk/problem. Whenever hearing a general 'you' it's always misinterpreted, and have to think about it. Sometimes react to it, sometimes not. Don't know why it's interpreted wrong; it's not because I don't understand the use of the word.

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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #131 on: October 20, 2013, 01:47:33 PM »
Actually it's just that you aren't particularly good at expressing yourself.
Why do you say that?
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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #132 on: October 20, 2013, 01:48:18 PM »
Actually it's just that you aren't particularly good at expressing yourself.
Why do you say that?

Do you have reading comprehension problems as well?
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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #133 on: October 20, 2013, 02:24:59 PM »
Actually it's just that you aren't particularly good at expressing yourself.
Why do you say that?

Do you have reading comprehension problems as well?

He is very isolated, so he probably hasn't had a lot of oportunities to fine tune his expressive skills.

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Re: Is there a stigma attached to mental health?
« Reply #134 on: October 20, 2013, 02:52:57 PM »
Actually it's just that you aren't particularly good at expressing yourself.
Why do you say that?

Do you have reading comprehension problems as well?

He is very isolated, so he probably hasn't had a lot of oportunities to fine tune his expressive skills.

I'm sure mum thinks he is great, though.
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