When is the wearing of a 'burka' innopropriate ?

[Parts]

So let me get this straight. Burkas won't be allowed in some places because "they're creepy". Is that really whats being said in here?

Here you go as straight as it gets  I don't give a rat's ass if someone wants to wear one or not but do not expect me to treat someone wearing one the same as someone who is not.  I would place them on par with someone I was talking to on the telephone or through a door, one I can't really tell who I am dealing with/talking to, two I have hearing issues and many times I have to watch peoples mouths when they speak to help understand what they are saying.   

As to body language in court if it didn't matter they could just give the jurors transcripts of the testimony after the fact but somehow I just don't see that happening.

[Lestat]

Its that filthy spectre of political correctness. It is not, and never has been a good thing for anybody but the professionally hurt feelings brigade, by that I mean those who are ''professionals'' in the kind of odious non-job that is dedicated to showing to others their apparent piety to the unholy cause of PC nazism, beating at their breast and tearing their shirts hollowly and falsely in the name who's wallet they have been worshipping latest.


ANYBODY who supports political correctness is really doing themselves no favor, and quite honest? IMO is a bit of an obsequious, thoughtless, pandering toady.  PC is not a valid cause or an honourable one, it is a pestilent disease
look where it got us with the middle east, pandering, guzzling ay-rab jizz in exchange for oil and other goods.

The last labor govt and the one before even admitted conspiring to deliberately leave britain's borders wide open to 'rub their noses in diversity.

And more recently we have tolerance for sharia courts as a parallel legal 'system', and in general, these PC filth we have are infesting our countries with jihadists, government figures that need to be arrested and tried for what they have done and a disgusting nest of race traitors.

Something needs doing about the lot of them.

[RageBeoulve]

I could care less if someone is wearing a burka.

[Lestat]

The only good thing I can come up with, is that all these distinctive raghead dress getups mean they are obvious. Whilst wearing the burka, niqab etc, then they are highly distinctive as mud-slims, that way its easier to pick the opposite end of the tram to town, etc.  makes it much easier to spot the pakis from a distance when one wishes to avoid the dirty things.

[RageBeoulve]

The only good thing I can come up with, is that all these distinctive raghead dress getups mean they are obvious. Whilst wearing the burka, niqab etc, then they are highly distinctive as mud-slims, that way its easier to pick the opposite end of the tram to town, etc.  makes it much easier to spot the pakis from a distance when one wishes to avoid the dirty things.

You know, the muslims you guys encounter in Britain are mostly the ones their own people wouldn't put up with. Kind of the muslim rednecks.

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As to body language in court if it didn't matter they could just give the jurors transcripts of the testimony after the fact but somehow I just don't see that happening.

It does happen when the witness is unavailable. 

[Jack]

It does happen when the witness is unavailable. 

Are you going to pick a username, simba?

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It does happen when the witness is unavailable. 

Are you going to pick a username, simba?

Feh.  Maybe. 

[Parts]

As to body language in court if it didn't matter they could just give the jurors transcripts of the testimony after the fact but somehow I just don't see that happening.

It does happen when the witness is unavailable.

Yes but it is not common practice and objections are usually involved

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As to body language in court if it didn't matter they could just give the jurors transcripts of the testimony after the fact but somehow I just don't see that happening.

It does happen when the witness is unavailable.

Yes but it is not common practice and objections are usually involved

Point being?  We do not live in an ideal world full of ideal people.  Ideally, of course we could tell if a person were lying just by looking at them.  Ideally, perhaps people wouldn't lie at all.  But it's no use wandering off into fantasy land.  People may personally feel more comfortable with a witness they can see and hear.  They may congratulate themselves on their great judgement of when someone is lying.  But the sad reality is that truth-sense only exists in Frank Herbert novels.  Verbal testimony offers an illusion of being harder to fool, nothing more.

[Parts]

As to body language in court if it didn't matter they could just give the jurors transcripts of the testimony after the fact but somehow I just don't see that happening.

It does happen when the witness is unavailable.

Yes but it is not common practice and objections are usually involved

Point being?  We do not live in an ideal world full of ideal people.  Ideally, of course we could tell if a person were lying just by looking at them.  Ideally, perhaps people wouldn't lie at all.  But it's no use wandering off into fantasy land.  People may personally feel more comfortable with a witness they can see and hear.  They may congratulate themselves on their great judgement of when someone is lying.  But the sad reality is that truth-sense only exists in Frank Herbert novels.  Verbal testimony offers an illusion of being harder to fool, nothing more.

So let's just enter all the facts into a computer and let it make the decisions.

Like it or not scientific or not a lot of people make decisions based on how they feel about the way people say things and act while doing so.  I am a contractor and if someone makes me uneasy I will not work for them it might not be 'truth-sense' but it has served me well over the years so far in the 11 years I have been in business I have only been stiffed for $500.  I feel in court it will only hurt your case  wearing a burka if you don't care about that go right ahead and do it.

[Adam]

race traitors.

[bodie]

There are also nearly one million people in the UK who are deaf and rely on sign language and lip reading in order to communicate. 

[TheoK]

race traitors.

Girls having sex with "enrichers".

[bodie]

As to body language in court if it didn't matter they could just give the jurors transcripts of the testimony after the fact but somehow I just don't see that happening.

It does happen when the witness is unavailable.

Yes but it is not common practice and objections are usually involved

I should point out that the case I was referring to was not about the woman being a witness.  She was on trial charged with 'intimidation of a witness' .    She was allowed to wear her burka throughout except for when she was in the dock.