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violent and sex offenders only
7 (46.7%)
anyone who dare step out of line
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trusted public figures who defraud millions by tax evasion
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the population of Liverpool
1 (6.7%)
benefit cheats
1 (6.7%)
someone not mentioned above
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Another example of Tories favouring the rich
« on: September 17, 2013, 03:59:44 AM »


The  powers that be have decided to increase the maximum jail term for
benefit fraud to 10 years. 

Benefit fraud is a drop in the ocean compared to tax evasion and tax fraud.

Yes, let's just boot people even harder when they are down.

Owen Jones says it better than I ever could (see video)


Incidentally I do adore Owen Jones.  Not in a romantic way but I am very envious of his mother and would love to mother him and supply him with chicken soup etc on cold winter days.  :P 
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Re: Another example of Tories favouring the rich
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2013, 06:12:55 AM »
It's one of those ideas of legislation that appeals to the voter. The public thinks 27% of the people on benefit commit fraud. So, lets get the bastards.That it is less than 10% is just not sexy to tell to the public. It does not bring in votes. Tax evasion is a sport, no one would think of tackling that harder, because that would cost votes.

So, it's not about common sense, it is about appeasing the voter. Stupid idea.
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Re: Another example of Tories favouring the rich
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2013, 06:16:34 AM »
The voters are stupid  :facepalm2:

I hate people in general  :thumbdn:
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Re: Another example of Tories favouring the rich
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2013, 06:29:57 AM »
Sounds like the Tories are for many things that the Republicans and the some of the Democrats in the states are for....
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Re: Another example of Tories favouring the rich
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2013, 06:32:36 AM »
Quote from: Lit on September 17, 2013, 06:16:34 AM
The voters are stupid  :facepalm2:

I hate people in general  :thumbdn:

The voters are kept stupid, are treated as stupid, because that is how parties get more votes.
Marketing tricks.

Pessimistic mode, when it comes to politics, today. And I did not even watch the "troonrede".
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Re: Another example of Tories favouring the rich
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2013, 07:29:30 AM »
I agree
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Re: Another example of Tories favouring the rich
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2013, 07:44:42 AM »
Imprison the Scousers! :arrr: :trollface:
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Re: Another example of Tories favouring the rich
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2013, 08:08:46 AM »
Quote from: Semicolon on September 17, 2013, 07:44:42 AM
Imprison the Scousers! :arrr: :trollface:

...but check their pockets on their way 'out' of prison  :zoinks:
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Re: Another example of Tories favouring the rich
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2013, 08:10:48 AM »
Quote from: Genesis on September 17, 2013, 06:29:57 AM
Sounds like the Tories are for many things that the Republicans and the some of the Democrats in the states are for....

I get mixed up with your lot, but yeah I think your equivalent is the republican.
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Re: Another example of Tories favouring the rich
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2013, 08:13:14 AM »
Quote from: hykeaswell on September 17, 2013, 06:12:55 AM
It's one of those ideas of legislation that appeals to the voter. The public thinks 27% of the people on benefit commit fraud. So, lets get the bastards.That it is less than 10% is just not sexy to tell to the public. It does not bring in votes. Tax evasion is a sport, no one would think of tackling that harder, because that would cost votes.

So, it's not about common sense, it is about appeasing the voter. Stupid idea.

Good one!  Tax evasion is a sport.  I like that.
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Re: Another example of Tories favouring the rich
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2013, 08:14:20 AM »
Politicians are shills for the oligarchy.

It is costly to run an effective campaign and only the rich (or in some cases labor unions) can afford to fund campaigns. 
Therefore the (bought and paid for) official is beholden to the campaign funder. If they actuall legislate in favor of the electorate then they will be outspent on the next election....or even primaried.

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Re: Another example of Tories favouring the rich
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2013, 08:19:10 AM »
The tories say they are the party that supports people who want to work!   Yet,  look at how they treat 'workers'   They don't want them to have any rights and 'trade unions' are just dirty words to them. 

Tories are poo  :thumbdn:
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Re: Another example of Tories favouring the rich
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2013, 08:26:32 AM »
The republicans say they are the party of small business owners, yet they sponsor everything which ships jobs overseas and favors the Walmart model of doing business.

It's all rhetoric.
Fuck em all.
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Re: Another example of Tories favouring the rich
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2013, 08:31:22 AM »
 :agreed: :viking:
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Re: Another example of Tories favouring the rich
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2013, 09:14:26 AM »
I believe in giving lazy people a taste of jail, yes. But that includes most of the rich.
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