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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #855 on: October 16, 2013, 10:50:58 AM »
He simply avoids the question how to defend yourself against the state. Most people here do. It's out of their ability to even imagine that the situation would ever occur.

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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #856 on: October 16, 2013, 10:54:27 AM »
Even though its occurred with every developed civilization in human history, sometimes several times. :dunno:
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I will never stop...
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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #857 on: October 16, 2013, 11:00:02 AM »
The military in Sweden shot on peaceful workers demonstrating in 1931. My grandma was 9 years old then.


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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #858 on: October 16, 2013, 11:07:04 AM »
Also this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment

As recent as 1942. It can happen today. It could happen tomorrow.
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I am the passion; I am the warfare.
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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #859 on: October 16, 2013, 11:24:40 AM »
And of course Jews in nazi Germany and Soviet farmers etc were disarmed and murdered in millions. But that will never happen, of course, at least not in western Europe or America  ::)

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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #860 on: October 16, 2013, 01:53:59 PM »
THE HOLOCAUST IS COMING!!!!!11!1! :tinfoil:

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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #861 on: October 16, 2013, 01:59:28 PM »
THE HOLOCAUST IS COMING!!!!!11!1! :tinfoil:

Its a possibility. Why joke about it?
"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #862 on: October 16, 2013, 02:53:01 PM »
THE HOLOCAUST IS COMING!!!!!11!1! :tinfoil:

People are raped and tortured to death at this very momnet in Syria. Not long ago that happened in ex Yugoslavia. But you and odeon know with 100% certainty that that is never going to happen in Sweden, the UK or the US. Amazing.

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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #863 on: October 16, 2013, 04:28:04 PM »
It sure doesn't seem like something to joke about to me, either.
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I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #864 on: October 16, 2013, 07:38:28 PM »
:popcorn:
Misunderstood.

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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #865 on: October 16, 2013, 11:23:58 PM »
That makes no sense. Are you criticising DD for holding an opinion different from yours? What are you saying?

As for religions, you are the one to blow up if your constitution is put into question. You are the one to treat it like a religion, not DD.

But we've been there.

No i'm not. I'm criticizing you for being way off the mark. I have not "blown up" when you criticized my country's constitution. I'm annoyed that you even think its your business to talk about. Especially since you have no constructive suggestions as an alternative.

Since when are we not allowed to criticise your country or its constitution? Face it, Rage. What your country does affects the entire globe. Your politics, your economics, your attitudes towards everybody else.

Your debt ceiling, to use a recent example, could easily cause a worldwide depression so what you do to solve it is everybody's business. Your gun politics affect how you deal with your country but also how you deal with others, and so it is our business. Only Michael Jackson thought living in a plastic bubble would actually solve anything.

As for suggestions, I think my opinions are well known. They are, IMHO, constructive. They are, however, different from yours. You don't have to like it, just live with it.
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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #866 on: October 16, 2013, 11:24:58 PM »
He simply avoids the question how to defend yourself against the state. Most people here do. It's out of their ability to even imagine that the situation would ever occur.

Not avoiding it, Lit. I have addressed it a number of times but you don't accept it. Different.
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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #867 on: October 16, 2013, 11:25:43 PM »
Even though its occurred with every developed civilization in human history, sometimes several times. :dunno:

While you may be fine with being stuck in the dark ages, not everyone is.
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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #868 on: October 16, 2013, 11:27:12 PM »
THE HOLOCAUST IS COMING!!!!!11!1! :tinfoil:

People are raped and tortured to death at this very momnet in Syria. Not long ago that happened in ex Yugoslavia. But you and odeon know with 100% certainty that that is never going to happen in Sweden, the UK or the US. Amazing.

What's amazing is that you put words in our mouths, words we never uttered.

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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #869 on: October 17, 2013, 07:30:11 AM »
THE HOLOCAUST IS COMING!!!!!11!1! :tinfoil:

People are raped and tortured to death at this very momnet in Syria. Not long ago that happened in ex Yugoslavia. But you and odeon know with 100% certainty that that is never going to happen in Sweden, the UK or the US. Amazing.

What's amazing is that you put words in our mouths, words we never uttered.

Logically that is the only conclusion one can draw. If you want the people to be able to stand even the slightest shadow of a chance to avoid something like what has happened in Bosnia and is happening in Syria right now in, you can't be in favour of gun laws. With registered guns, limitations of capacity on guns etc etc the people will barely stand a chance to defend itself.

I myself say that it is very unlikely that something like that in Syria will happen in Sweden in any short time from now, but it's also very unlikely that one's house will burn down, and yet almost everyone has a fire insurance. Accepting any gun control is like having a house but no fire insurance.