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Magdalene asylums
« on: August 13, 2013, 11:48:04 AM »
"Magdalene asylums were slave labor laundries from the 18th to the late-20th centuries ostensibly to house "fallen women", a term used to imply female sexual promiscuity. Asylums for such girls and women and others considered to be of poor moral character, such as prostitutes, operated throughout Europe and North America for much of the nineteenth and well into the twentieth century."

"Asylum records show that in the early history of the Magdalene movement, many women entered and left the institutions of their own accord, sometimes repeatedly. Lu Ann De Cunzo wrote in her book, Reform, Respite, Ritual: An Archaeology of Institutions; The Magdalene Society of Philadelphia, 1800-1850, that the women in Philadelphia's asylum "sought a refuge and a respite from disease, the prison or almshouse, unhappy family situations, abusive men and dire economic circumstances." Though the institutions were meant to be a refuge for women, some were subjected to physical, psychological, sexual and emotional abuse. Many women felt they needed the support of the institutions to survive, since the sisters strove to make them feel that the reasons for their refuge were their own fault.

According to historian, Frances Finnegan, because many had a background as prostitutes, inmates (who were called "children") were regarded as "in need of penitence," and until the 1970s were required to address all staff members as "mother" regardless of age. To enforce order and maintain a monastic atmosphere, the inmates were required to observe strict silence for much of the day, while corporal punishment was common.[page needed]

As the phenomenon became more widespread, it extended beyond prostitution to petty criminals, orphans, mentally retarded women and abused girls, despite popular perception unmarried pregnant women were typically not admitted. Even young girls who were considered too promiscuous and flirtatious, or too beautiful, were sent to an asylum by their families. This paralleled the practice in state-run asylums in Britain and Ireland in the same period, where many people with alleged "social dysfunction" were committed to asylums. Without a family member on the outside who could vouch for them, many incarcerated individuals stayed in the asylums for the rest of their lives, many taking religious vows."

"The existence of the Irish asylums was not well known until 1993 when an order of nuns, Sisters of Our Lady of Charity, in Dublin sold part of their convent to a real-estate developer. The remains of 155 inmates who had been buried in unmarked graves on the property were exhumed and, except for one, cremated and reburied in a mass grave in Glasnevin Cemetery. This triggered a public scandal and became national news. In 1999, Mary Norris, Josephine McCarthy and Mary-Jo McDonagh, all asylum inmates, gave accounts of their treatment. The 1997 Channel 4 documentary Sex in a Cold Climate interviewed former inmates of Magdalene Asylums who testified to continued sexual, psychological and physical abuse while being isolated from the outside world for an indefinite amount of time. Allegations about the conditions in the convents and the treatment of the inmates were made into an award-winning 2002 film The Magdalene Sisters, written and directed by Peter Mullan."

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Re: Magdalene asylums
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2013, 12:05:19 PM »
That's the cunting Catholic Church for you  :thumbup:

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Re: Magdalene asylums
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2013, 12:58:48 PM »
My mother was almost put into one when she was younger. :thumbup:

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Re: Magdalene asylums
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2013, 12:59:58 PM »
My mother was almost put into one when she was younger. :thumbup:

Holy crap- whats the story?
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Re: Magdalene asylums
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2013, 01:18:30 PM »
For marrying early.

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Re: Magdalene asylums
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2013, 01:19:21 PM »
Can't you guys even just imagine it?

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Re: Magdalene asylums
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2013, 01:34:49 PM »
You should watch the film based on those institutes. Really fucked up shit.

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Re: Magdalene asylums
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2013, 01:45:24 PM »
You should watch the film based on those institutes. Really fucked up shit.

I was watching "The Magdalene Sisters", thats how I found out about it....at the end I realised it was based on true events and I was like "WHAT THE FUCKING HELL?" then looked it up. I want to see the doc "The Forgotten Maggies".

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Re: Magdalene asylums
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2013, 02:20:51 PM »
Well  someone has to do the laundry :zoinks:
I had never heard of this and was brought up in a very Catholic family but of course they were all saints and would have never been sent such places :pope:
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Re: Magdalene asylums
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2013, 02:28:48 PM »
They only existed in Ireland, I think. The grip that the catholic church had on the government here was unreal at the time, to the point that people called it "Rome Rule".

It's only as of late that Ireland is losing that group, but there's still a lot of issues to be sorted. The quicker this country becomes secular, the better.

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Re: Magdalene asylums
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2013, 02:31:53 PM »
They only existed in Ireland, I think. The grip that the catholic church had on the government here was unreal at the time, to the point that people called it "Rome Rule".

It's only as of late that Ireland is losing that group, but there's still a lot of issues to be sorted. The quicker this country becomes secular, the better.

Not just Ireland, but mostly in Ireland.

There were similar asylums throughout the UK, Australia, and I think North America. The pic with the ladies in black dresses and white aprons is from one in England.
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Re: Magdalene asylums
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2013, 02:38:08 PM »
Recent Catholic Church (and Anglican Church) atrocities:
-slave labor camps for "fallen women", pretty girls, disabled, and socially disfunctional (last one closed 1996)
-residential schools for aboriginal children in Canada, (similar schools in US and Australia) (last one in Canada closed in 1996)
-systematic molestations, rape, and abuse of children
-missionary work in indigenous tribes followed up with resource extraction


I'm sure there is more. Overall themes: abuse and profit.
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Re: Magdalene asylums
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2013, 02:42:44 PM »
Just when I thought the human race couldn't get any dumber.
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They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
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Re: Magdalene asylums
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2013, 03:11:20 PM »
sg, the catholic church is the most evil, corrupt and criminal organisation on earth.

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Re: Magdalene asylums
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2013, 03:24:55 PM »
sg, the catholic church is the most evil, corrupt and criminal organisation on earth.

Tell me about it....  They are the most fucking evil institution I have ever known to exist.
Can't you guys even just imagine it?

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