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Watch this video. Try to understand it.
« on: April 18, 2013, 11:30:54 AM »
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« Last Edit: April 18, 2013, 02:19:29 PM by RageBeoulve »
"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"

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Re: Watch this video. Try to understand it.
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2013, 01:48:13 PM »
It wouldn't load.  Try a you tube link
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Re: Watch this video. Try to understand it.
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2013, 02:14:39 PM »
I don't think there is one.
"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"

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Re: Watch this video. Try to understand it.
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2013, 02:16:54 PM »
Impossible.
You tube has everything.
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Re: Watch this video. Try to understand it.
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2013, 11:15:38 PM »
so...they are against healthcare because -as reagan said- it is a way controlling people and taking away their freedom- am I right?








Ok, this is my take on the whole "gov't takeover!" thingy:
The less gov't is involved the more control smaller entities have on governing their own communities. Think of it as a bit like a community's sovereign right to decide what is important to them in terms of education, law enforcement, health, etc.

This is all fine and dandy, assuming that the community members are actually ALL benefitting from this. What happens (in reality) is that those smaller entities, such as states and districts, are lead and governed by people and bodies which only represent a certain range of demographics. The other demographics then become disadvantaged, or even exploited...and now they need protection. Who will protect these minority groups who have the least say in anything going on in their communities? WHo get the bad end of the stick, and are simultaneously blamed for their disadvantaged position?

They federal gov't. They come in and say, you have to take care of all students, of all patients, of all demographics.

The thing is, most people would prefer to have more control over the decisions made which affect their communities. But, when entire demographics of people are left out of that equation and have no way of significantly affecting their standard of living (except by LEAVING their community), then their only hope is in the feds to enforce some type of regulatory power.

And that my friends is why majorities of black people like gun regulation, healthcare reform, education reform, etc. Because that is our only hope for enjoying the benefits of such things, rather than consistently getting the bad end of the stick. We were never intended to be a part of the gov'ts plan for control. We weren't intended to have control over anything, not even our bodies. That is why the system doesn't work very well automatically for us. That is why we need protection. That is also why people of other demographics can sometimes fail to relate, or understand why such changes would need to happen. They see it as a takeover of their control. Well, they just didn't realize how badly they were managing things...and how could they? They are not the ones feeling the brunt of the consequences of bad management.

And I am only talking about black people because that is the demographic I am most comfortable representing, but the same/similar could be said for others.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2013, 11:19:47 PM by sg1008 »
Can't you guys even just imagine it?

Forget practicality, or your experience....can you just....imagine?

It's there. It always was.

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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2013, 11:34:39 PM »
It's a shame these things aren't said aloud. But people are all touchy at the very suggestion of institutionalized prejudice of any kind.

The alternative to fed regulation is:
Giving more control to the communities, especially neighborhoods. The problem is, NEIGHBORHOODS can sometimes be all black, or all latino, or all Chinese, or all poor, and letting such people dip into the funding of the city and state is abhorrent to many people. They "assume" that such people are not fit to make decisions about their own education, health, and laws, and definitely not fit to manage money.

As that alternative is so against the "values" of America, the states and cities and districts maintain that they should handle things, using a majority vote some of the time.

Again, majority doesn't reflect minorities. So, if the fed didn't step in, the disadvantageous positions will continue to be reinforced, and the cycle will continue. Until this shit leaks into the more mainstream view, it gets swept under the carpet...and the "dream" of America is upheld.
Can't you guys even just imagine it?

Forget practicality, or your experience....can you just....imagine?

It's there. It always was.

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Re: Watch this video. Try to understand it.
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2013, 12:03:40 PM »
As a rule of thumb.  And to simplify my belief system I tend not to believe what politicians tell me to believe.  Same with religious leaders.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2013, 04:42:27 PM »
Its not actually a government takeover. The government is playing altar boy to really really really really rich people. The government, along with the people, was meant to keep this kind of bullshit under control. It failed.
"I’m fearless in my heart.
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I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
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  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"

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Re: Watch this video. Try to understand it.
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2013, 04:44:24 PM »
Its not actually a government takeover. The government is playing altar boy to really really really really rich people. The government, along with the people, was meant to keep this kind of bullshit under control. It failed.

 :agreed:
Can't you guys even just imagine it?

Forget practicality, or your experience....can you just....imagine?

It's there. It always was.

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Re: Watch this video. Try to understand it.
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2013, 04:53:20 PM »
The masses need discomfort.  Things will change.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2013, 04:54:48 PM »
The masses need discomfort.  Things will change.

Things will change alright. Things'll get a shitload worse. By letting bleeding heart pissant ultra PC faggots make all the laws.
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I am the passion; I am the warfare.
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  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"

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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2013, 04:56:21 PM »
The masses need unity.
PC is a good thing.  At least publicly people speak as if they are the same.
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2013, 04:58:49 PM »
The masses need unity.
PC is a good thing.  At least publicly people speak as if they are the same.
Americans will never have a hive mentality

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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2013, 04:59:34 PM »
The masses need unity.
PC is a good thing.  At least publicly people speak as if they are the same.

PC is for fags. Being polite to others is fine, and what people should do. When people like Richard Carrier and other social justice cocksucks like him actually have clout and are considered wise and fir for leadership... oh man. Tough times ahead.
"I’m fearless in my heart.
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I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
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  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"

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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2013, 05:03:05 PM »
Imagine if the rest of the populous gets HALF as angry as you....changes are nigh.
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