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Re: The Iron Lady Is Gone
« Reply #90 on: April 20, 2013, 11:35:11 AM »
Quote from: odeon on April 18, 2013, 11:17:47 PM
Hi Adam, how have you been?

And do we need to get rid of more politicians to get you to post?

Haha maybe. I've got a list if you're really determined to get me to post :P

And I'm good thanks. You?
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Re: The Iron Lady Is Gone
« Reply #91 on: April 20, 2013, 03:21:28 PM »
Quote from: Adam on April 20, 2013, 11:35:11 AM
Quote from: odeon on April 18, 2013, 11:17:47 PM
Hi Adam, how have you been?

And do we need to get rid of more politicians to get you to post?

Haha maybe. I've got a list if you're really determined to get me to post :P

And I'm good thanks. You?

Just fine, mostly.

Post that list. :zoinks:
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Re: The Iron Lady Is Gone
« Reply #92 on: April 20, 2013, 04:02:34 PM »
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:grrr: I think what is sad that many male politicians that have done just as bad or worse won't be getting their deaths celebrated.  :grrr:

It's a good point.  Gadaffi?, Saddam Hussein ?.   Not really the same league.  In my mind there has been no male politicians here in the UK who warrant that kind of reaction that i recall.

It does pose the question that perhaps Maggie was seen as a target for hatred because she was a woman?  Did we expect her to behave differently because she was a woman?

I will have to give that some thought.

Were there male politicians who reigned for as long as she did, without the UK being in a major war?

Tony Blair won three consecutive elections 1997, 2001, 2005.  His reign was only 10 years.  He could have beat Maggie by 18months if he hadn't quit and handed it over to Gordon Brown who was a far better Chancellor than Prime Minister.

I really don't think Maggie had any shit flung at her just because she was a woman.  Had it been a man who made those decisions and hurt so many communities then i think it would be the same.

I do think, people partied harder because she was elevated wrongly with a state funeral.  £10 million could buy several dialysis machines for example.  State funerals should be reserved for those people like Churchill.  He was famously conservative but his years of service benefited the whole country.  Maggie didn't do this.     Churchill had personality and  humour and honour.   Maggie didn't.  She lacked warmth.  Even to her own children.

Would Churchill have done what Maggie did?  Hard to say.  He was very conservative.  I would like to believe he had more moral fibre and humanity.

Churchill made the decision to let Coventry be bombed rather than let the Nazis know their code had been broken.  Not sure how much humanity there was in that decision.  Seems pretty military.
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Re: The Iron Lady Is Gone
« Reply #93 on: April 20, 2013, 04:07:02 PM »
Was he able to warn Coventry?
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Re: The Iron Lady Is Gone
« Reply #94 on: April 21, 2013, 02:52:25 AM »
No, I don't think he was.
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Re: The Iron Lady Is Gone
« Reply #95 on: April 23, 2013, 01:40:53 PM »
People are able to make rational, military decisions while still having humanity.
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Re: The Iron Lady Is Gone
« Reply #96 on: April 23, 2013, 02:02:16 PM »
Quote from: Adam on April 23, 2013, 01:40:53 PM
People are able to make rational, military decisions while still having humanity.

Indeed they are.
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Re: The Iron Lady Is Gone
« Reply #97 on: April 23, 2013, 11:07:25 PM »
Should we have a Tony Blair thread?
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Re: The Iron Lady Is Gone
« Reply #98 on: April 24, 2013, 01:44:28 AM »
He has ben criticised over his handling of Iraq.

I liked him, though.
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Re: The Iron Lady Is Gone
« Reply #99 on: April 24, 2013, 10:38:34 AM »
Quote from: odeon on April 23, 2013, 11:07:25 PM
Should we have a Tony Blair thread?

Yes, but I reserve the right to call him a cunt.
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Re: The Iron Lady Is Gone
« Reply #100 on: April 24, 2013, 11:15:42 AM »
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Should we have a Tony Blair thread?

Yes, but I reserve the right to call him a cunt.

Fair enough.
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Re: The Iron Lady Is Gone
« Reply #101 on: April 24, 2013, 11:22:14 AM »
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Re: The Iron Lady Is Gone
« Reply #102 on: April 24, 2013, 11:24:41 AM »
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Re: The Iron Lady Is Gone
« Reply #103 on: April 24, 2013, 03:04:15 PM »
There was absolutely no need for that Odeon.


Very tempting to fix that pic, but i shall refrain :M
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Re: The Iron Lady Is Gone
« Reply #104 on: April 24, 2013, 04:16:56 PM »
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