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Re: Folic Acid For Pregnant Mothers Cuts Kids' Autism Risk
« Reply #45 on: February 20, 2013, 12:49:38 PM »
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,20432.0.html

Let's let other people use these threads for their intended purpose :)

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Re: Folic Acid For Pregnant Mothers Cuts Kids' Autism Risk
« Reply #46 on: February 21, 2013, 12:12:01 AM »
This thread has an actual *purpose*? :o
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« Reply #47 on: February 21, 2013, 10:52:39 AM »
This thread has an actual *purpose*? :o

This one helps sell folic acid supplements I think.

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Re: Folic Acid For Pregnant Mothers Cuts Kids' Autism Risk
« Reply #48 on: February 21, 2013, 10:59:11 AM »
It might work like that on wrong planet. And people might truly care about it.. on wrong planet. And people might try and fix this problem by banning everyone involved.... ON WRONG PLANET. :mischief:
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« Reply #49 on: February 21, 2013, 11:00:46 AM »
It might work like that on wrong planet. And people might truly care about it.. on wrong planet. And people might try and fix this problem by banning everyone involved.... ON WRONG PLANET. :mischief:

Huh?  :dunno:

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Re: Folic Acid For Pregnant Mothers Cuts Kids' Autism Risk
« Reply #50 on: February 21, 2013, 11:03:04 AM »
Ah. Nobody cares how sloppy things get here, man. In fact its probably an interesting and stimulating spectacle.
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Re: Folic Acid For Pregnant Mothers Cuts Kids' Autism Risk
« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2013, 11:06:20 AM »
Ah. Nobody cares how sloppy things get here, man. In fact its probably an interesting and stimulating spectacle.

I think you are wrong there.  When Ricky and I spread it all over the forum people do complain.  Same with me and Benji, me and Brucie, Meadow and whomever, etc...

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Re: Folic Acid For Pregnant Mothers Cuts Kids' Autism Risk
« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2013, 11:21:09 AM »
Ah. Nobody cares how sloppy things get here, man. In fact its probably an interesting and stimulating spectacle.

I think you are wrong there.  When Ricky and I spread it all over the forum people do complain.  Same with me and Benji, me and Brucie, Meadow and whomever, etc...

Ahh well i'd complain about having to see your shit everywhere too, because you're an asshole.
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« Reply #53 on: February 21, 2013, 11:23:13 AM »
Ah. Nobody cares how sloppy things get here, man. In fact its probably an interesting and stimulating spectacle.

I think you are wrong there.  When Ricky and I spread it all over the forum people do complain.  Same with me and Benji, me and Brucie, Meadow and whomever, etc...

Ahh well i'd complain about having to see your shit everywhere too, because you're an asshole.

I absolutely am.  And that's why I am limiting how many threads are being taken up with this :)

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Re: Folic Acid For Pregnant Mothers Cuts Kids' Autism Risk
« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2013, 11:25:22 AM »
Well then I can't argue with that. As you were.
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Re: Folic Acid For Pregnant Mothers Cuts Kids' Autism Risk
« Reply #55 on: February 21, 2013, 11:34:37 AM »
This thread has an actual *purpose*? :o

This one helps sell folic acid supplements I think.

At least the idea of them.
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Re: Folic Acid For Pregnant Mothers Cuts Kids' Autism Risk
« Reply #56 on: February 21, 2013, 03:14:56 PM »
Not to overdose on folic acid supplements (which I'm sure come with its own slew of problems) but there's a lot of research already done supporting the role folic acid plays in DNA stability, i.e., if you are deprived there will be an increase in rates of mutation of a variety of types (point mutation, whole copy number variants, etc.). And while there is most certainly strong hereditary components to autism over all, that really varies case by case. In the larger studies sampling mutations in autism, particularly the copy number variants, many are inherited from the parents, but a significant portion are also de novo, meaning that they are new mutations arising in the autistic person, either from the egg or sperm or very early in gestation.

I know I'm gonna be raining on peoples' parades here, but genetic stability is heavily affected by environmental interactions. And there are many more ways to mutate the genome than to subject skin cells to UV rays. By targeting and relieving some of the factors that basically help hold the DNA together or work to repair it when mutation inevitably occurs, you can promote characteristic mutations, sometimes even including large segments of DNA jumping around from one location to another. This is actually what a portion of my research focuses on. How the environment not only affects gene expression but how it can also affect the genomic sequence itself. There's a large body of work in these regards although it's not well-disseminated into the popular media. --I think mainly because people don't understand it quite as easily as a concept of a stable genome being the seat of inheritance.

But I recommend looking stuff up on Google Scholar before ya go laughing at reported studies. Not to say there aren't ridiculous studies out there (and, yes, the type that Jenny McCarthy might often jump to support), but don't assume everything that sounds ridiculous is unfounded. There's a lot about biology that'll surprise you.
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Re: Folic Acid For Pregnant Mothers Cuts Kids' Autism Risk
« Reply #57 on: February 21, 2013, 03:18:13 PM »
PS: With regards to folic acid supplementation, in the US it's safer to get a prescription form due to the lack of regulations on supplements in this country. Efficacy can be doubtful. Europe regulates vitamin production though.  :thumbup:
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Re: Folic Acid For Pregnant Mothers Cuts Kids' Autism Risk
« Reply #58 on: February 26, 2013, 07:31:04 AM »
Common vitamin supplement appears to dramatically reduce a woman's risk of having a child with autism.
Yes, but is it more or less effective at prevention than condoms?

Less, but, condoms also prevent the wanted things like legs and eyes.
I don't want any more eyes and legs, though!  I have exactly the correct amount already!

Multiple legs too kinky?
I can do upside down chocolate moo things!