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Offline RageBeoulve

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Wouldn't you like to think your life and death meant something?

Wouldn't I like to think after I am dead that my life meant something?  Hmmm.  There seems to be a minor logical error in that thinking but I just can't put my finger on it.   :chin:

Oh is that so? Maybe i'm too dumb to see this, man. How about you break it down for me? :zoinks:
"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

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It is true that once you're dead you're dead. Your actions in life affect others however. (You are part of an enormous picture, the world does not revolve around you. It never will.) So say if you die saving the lives of others, as opposed to dying from inhaling cocaine laced with gasoline, one is going to be inspiring to others, and one if going to be a fucking joke. In short, a heroic death is a "good" death. We are all GOING TO DIE someday. Wouldn't you like to think your life and death meant something?

In a few years, the humans you hoped to influence will be gone, too, and whatever you so-called good death was, it won't be remembered. When everyone dies, the death of one is bound to be confused with the death of another.

As you say, *everyone* dies. But it doesn't stop there. Give it more time and the planet will be gone, too. And the sun. Ultimately everything is pointless.

I'd much rather try to find meaning in my life while I still live it.

That's a very good point, Odeon. But I care about the relatively short terms effects my actions will have on the big picture. I care about what happens after i'm gone, even if in the end everything will be gone.

I care about it, man.  :)
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They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

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It's entirely possible to be both. :viking:

 :LOL: The things we aspire to.

I'd think that assholes are more easily butthurt, too. :zoinks:
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It is true that once you're dead you're dead. Your actions in life affect others however. (You are part of an enormous picture, the world does not revolve around you. It never will.) So say if you die saving the lives of others, as opposed to dying from inhaling cocaine laced with gasoline, one is going to be inspiring to others, and one if going to be a fucking joke. In short, a heroic death is a "good" death. We are all GOING TO DIE someday. Wouldn't you like to think your life and death meant something?

In a few years, the humans you hoped to influence will be gone, too, and whatever you so-called good death was, it won't be remembered. When everyone dies, the death of one is bound to be confused with the death of another.

As you say, *everyone* dies. But it doesn't stop there. Give it more time and the planet will be gone, too. And the sun. Ultimately everything is pointless.

I'd much rather try to find meaning in my life while I still live it.

That's a very good point, Odeon. But I care about the relatively short terms effects my actions will have on the big picture. I care about what happens after i'm gone, even if in the end everything will be gone.

I care about it, man.  :)

I know you do. Not everyone is a certified cynic like I am.
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I'd think that assholes are more easily butthurt, too. :zoinks:

Uh oh, for one brief second there it sounded like you were calling yourself a decent sort.  :lol1:
You'll never self-actualize the subconscious canopy of stardust with that attitude.

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I'd think that assholes are more easily butthurt, too. :zoinks:

Uh oh, for one brief second there it sounded like you were calling yourself a decent sort.  :lol1:

:laugh:

No such thing.
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It is true that once you're dead you're dead. Your actions in life affect others however. (You are part of an enormous picture, the world does not revolve around you. It never will.) So say if you die saving the lives of others, as opposed to dying from inhaling cocaine laced with gasoline, one is going to be inspiring to others, and one if going to be a fucking joke. In short, a heroic death is a "good" death. We are all GOING TO DIE someday. Wouldn't you like to think your life and death meant something?

In a few years, the humans you hoped to influence will be gone, too, and whatever you so-called good death was, it won't be remembered. When everyone dies, the death of one is bound to be confused with the death of another.

As you say, *everyone* dies. But it doesn't stop there. Give it more time and the planet will be gone, too. And the sun. Ultimately everything is pointless.

I'd much rather try to find meaning in my life while I still live it.

That's a very good point, Odeon. But I care about the relatively short terms effects my actions will have on the big picture. I care about what happens after i'm gone, even if in the end everything will be gone.

I care about it, man.  :)

I know you do. Not everyone is a certified cynic like I am.

Lol we all love you man. Cynics are cool.
"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"

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Not everyone is a certified cynic like I am.

Certified for a brief time, but it's taxing to keep up with the certification renewal.

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My cynicism has let up a lot in the past years.

Lately I am afraid of scary movies, and I find some babies to be cute.
In fact, watching a WW2 docu lately, what gripped me the most was footage of French soldiers trying to force gas masks on a protesting little girl :( W her lil cry face and lil curls :( She has no idea they're just trying to help :(

I also cry to shows like "secret millionaire" :(

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I was talking to Odeon, who doesn't generally refer to himself as "her".
Uh huh, looked like you were talking to Odeon about the other people in the thread, one of whom was in the quote.
Jeeeeeez, dude.  Would you have responded/be responding the same way in real life?

Not everyone is a certified cynic like I am.

Certified for a brief time, but it's taxing to keep up with the certification renewal.
Real cynics don't bother; we see the renewal process for the useless cash cow it is.
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It is true that once you're dead you're dead. Your actions in life affect others however. (You are part of an enormous picture, the world does not revolve around you. It never will.) So say if you die saving the lives of others, as opposed to dying from inhaling cocaine laced with gasoline, one is going to be inspiring to others, and one if going to be a fucking joke. In short, a heroic death is a "good" death. We are all GOING TO DIE someday. Wouldn't you like to think your life and death meant something?

In a few years, the humans you hoped to influence will be gone, too, and whatever you so-called good death was, it won't be remembered. When everyone dies, the death of one is bound to be confused with the death of another.

As you say, *everyone* dies. But it doesn't stop there. Give it more time and the planet will be gone, too. And the sun. Ultimately everything is pointless.

I'd much rather try to find meaning in my life while I still live it.

That's a very good point, Odeon. But I care about the relatively short terms effects my actions will have on the big picture. I care about what happens after i'm gone, even if in the end everything will be gone.

I care about it, man.  :)

I know you do. Not everyone is a certified cynic like I am.

Lol we all love you man. Cynics are cool.

Sometimes I wish I had a brighter outlook on life, but then I realise it's not my fault that life is what it is.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

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Ah, the cynic outlook, I know it well.
But, there is still some passion left, or newly emerged, on a smaller scale. No world saving ideas anymore, but, my own surroundings, there my actions do count. Sometimes I do miss the huge passions from way back. But, I'm glad to have some passion left.
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It is true that once you're dead you're dead. Your actions in life affect others however. (You are part of an enormous picture, the world does not revolve around you. It never will.) So say if you die saving the lives of others, as opposed to dying from inhaling cocaine laced with gasoline, one is going to be inspiring to others, and one if going to be a fucking joke. In short, a heroic death is a "good" death. We are all GOING TO DIE someday. Wouldn't you like to think your life and death meant something?

In a few years, the humans you hoped to influence will be gone, too, and whatever you so-called good death was, it won't be remembered. When everyone dies, the death of one is bound to be confused with the death of another.

As you say, *everyone* dies. But it doesn't stop there. Give it more time and the planet will be gone, too. And the sun. Ultimately everything is pointless.

I'd much rather try to find meaning in my life while I still live it.

That's a very good point, Odeon. But I care about the relatively short terms effects my actions will have on the big picture. I care about what happens after i'm gone, even if in the end everything will be gone.

I care about it, man.  :)

I know you do. Not everyone is a certified cynic like I am.

Lol we all love you man. Cynics are cool.

Sometimes I wish I had a brighter outlook on life, but then I realise it's not my fault that life is what it is.

To be honest I feel that way a lot too, but I still have hope.
"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"

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I have hopes. Several of them.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

- Albert Einstein