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Offline Beardy McFuckface

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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #75 on: November 12, 2012, 07:47:53 PM »
Big Brother is NOT a friend of the people. The state, by its very nature, craves control over people, and will stoop to all manner of abuses in order to hang onto power, and of course, they always 'need' this, that, or the other new form of authority, something else to enforce/or to better enforce some existing regulations.

The plague of CCTV cameras is hardly a deterrent to criminals, solve few crimes, and in general, those 'innovations' that give the pork, and big brother yet more of the power they so greedily crave, are not good things to be used in the spirit of benevolence. Much more often, they are, or wind up being, used to create and maintain a state of fear, uncertainty and doubt amongst us 'common people'

Or as one (now former) govt. minister over here in the UK so charmingly put it 'plebs'

And I for one, don't take to the idea of being watched, nearly everywhere I go if its in a public, urban/city place, it just doesn't sit well with my private, and introvert nature.

Thank hades that the infestation hasn't reached the places I feel most 'at home' and at peace, out in the woods.

Even without CCTV, being out in public means NO privacy. None. Zilch. Even in the woods.

If I was entitled to privacy in the public, I could have a wank in the streets and not have to worry about consequence.

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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #76 on: November 12, 2012, 09:07:35 PM »
I don't know about that. I generally get to be alone, when I go out on my mushroom forays, at least, if I want to. Easy enough to find somewhere comfortable and take a nap halfway through if I want without being disturbed.
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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #77 on: November 12, 2012, 09:15:36 PM »
And yes, guns do kill people. What else do you think they're for? Substitute dildos?

If you do substitute a gun for a dildo, be real careful.  You could really do a bang up job on your orgasm.
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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #78 on: November 12, 2012, 09:17:22 PM »
could we ditch the cameras, hire some artists, sit them on top of the light poles and have them sketch the relevant scenes?  That would help some of the employment problem.
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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #79 on: November 12, 2012, 10:15:06 PM »
And yes, guns do kill people. What else do you think they're for? Substitute dildos?

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Do you actually think an inanimate object can do harm on its own, whether it is a gun, spoon, or a bottle of booze?
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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #80 on: November 12, 2012, 10:18:40 PM »
Of course not, idiot. But guns are DESIGNED to kill people. What else are they for?

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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #81 on: November 12, 2012, 10:22:47 PM »
Of course not, idiot. But guns are DESIGNED to kill people. What else are they for?

Duuuuuuuuuuuh.  :yawn:

Your point?

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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #82 on: November 12, 2012, 10:23:43 PM »
Of course not, idiot. But guns are DESIGNED to kill people. What else are they for?
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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #83 on: November 12, 2012, 10:27:19 PM »
Of course not, idiot. But guns are DESIGNED to kill people. What else are they for?

Duuuuuuuuuuuh.  :yawn:

Your point?

I guess spoons cause obesity as well.

No. Becuase spoons are there to EAT with. Not to make yourself obese with. Guns are there to shoot people with. Shooting people isn't a side effect

Anyway, this "debate" is boring now. We've had it numerous times already and neither of us are going to change our minds.  Im not gonna sit here discussing guns with some redneck on the internet.

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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #84 on: November 12, 2012, 10:29:38 PM »
Of course not, idiot. But guns are DESIGNED to kill people. What else are they for?

Duuuuuuuuuuuh.  :yawn:

Your point?

I guess spoons cause obesity as well.

No. Becuase spoons are there to EAT with. Not to make yourself obese with. Guns are there to shoot people with. Shooting people isn't a side effect

Anyway, this "debate" is boring now. We've had it numerous times already and neither of us are going to change our minds.  Im not gonna sit here discussing guns with some redneck on the internet.

Who said we were discussing guns? That was simply the example you choose for your retort.  :M

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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #85 on: November 13, 2012, 01:48:37 AM »
And yes, guns do kill people. What else do you think they're for? Substitute dildos?

Why are you such a whiner? It's nothing wrong if the good guys kill the bad guys with guns. And the gun won't kill anyone on its own. The gun law wasn't made to protect you in the first place. It was made to protect your lords and other arseholes ruling Britain from you!

Suits you right that you live in the cunty UK with a camera in every corner.
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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #86 on: November 13, 2012, 01:50:52 AM »
I will only support CCTV if they stop the nonsense campaign of preventing photographers taking pictures in public, otherwise it's double standards to me.

There is such a campaign? :facepalm:
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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #87 on: November 13, 2012, 07:00:10 AM »
More or less, yes. The UK government for example campaigned that people report anyone taking photographs, in case it's a "terrorist threat" or along the lines. Here's a poster from that campaign:



Also, the police and private security firms are harassing photographers for pretty much no reason, trying to get their equipment confiscated or their images deleted. There is also the recent surge of photographer = pervert mentality of people, which is not helped by bias in the press, especially tabloid newspapers.

It leads me to think that they often forget that the "real" terrorists will most likely not use DSLRs and such in public to document their nefarious plans, but use compact or mobile phone cameras due to being easy to conceal. Same with paedophiles, perverts and other deviants. You often see people take pictures with their phones or compact cameras without consequence in not only the public, but in private areas where photography is strictly forbidden. That in itself is a double standard, and that any potential terrorists will pretty much get away with it.

That said, a line has to drawn when it comes to someone using photography to intentionally harass someone. You will always get people who take it too far. However, I do not think it warrants a ban of public photography/videography etc.

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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #88 on: November 13, 2012, 07:13:25 AM »
I think I should stop complaining about Sweden. It's pretty liberal here compared with the UK and even with the Netherlands  :-\

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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #89 on: November 13, 2012, 04:11:43 PM »
They have adds about things like that down toward NYC, they also more disturbingly have adds about reporting people who look nervous, out of place or avoid eye contact. 
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