Surveillance cameras

[TheoK]

Yes, it certainly isn't for national states with millions of inhabitants.

[odeon]

Here is some logical flaw. "My" way would mean that everyone had equal power. How could anyone be oppressed if everybody had equal power?

Anarchy doesn't mean that you do what you want but that the laws/rules have the consent of everyone they are concerning.

It is this system with lies, laws forced upon people against their will and monopoly on violence that makes it possible to oppress people to start with.

Here's the flaw in your thinking: you assume everyone would have equal power. Not gonna happen.

[odeon]

Sounds like it would only work at the level of a village or small town.

It wouldn't work then either. Maybe a small village with two or three people. Maybe.

[TheoK]

Wrong. It did actually work in Modern Times around 1850.

[odeon]

It was a very small community and didn't last. AFAIK it took only a few new citizens to break it.

[Lestat]

IMO when govts lie, and get caught at it,they need to face punishment.

Here in the UK, only the most flagrant, blatant, in extremis cases, such as the money-thieving MPs  got it in the neck over their misdeeds. Pretty much anything else, and they might just be told 'naughty boy, don't do it again'

Things such as lying, they need to face consequences when caught doing it, or else what is going to happen? they learn its acceptable, and keep on doing it.

Such as when we were promised a referendum on europe, as a manifesto promise, only to be told, after the govt. in question attained their power fix 'sorry, we changed our minds, you peasants aren't getting one'

Things like that really piss me off, that our political class seem to have a license to act as they bloody well please, without the slightest comeback.

Lol...as they say 'whats the point of voting? no matter who you vote for, the govt. always gets in'

[lutra]

I also think that a smallish village will not work in a (-n/more) anarchistic setting, I'm afraid. Wish it could work with nil 'hierarchy', for yeah, I share that hatred for it too, but I consider it to be unrealistic to become such nowadays. It will not happen, in reality, never ever, I'm pretty sure.

Reclusion, not caring much about political BS/political correctness, doing what you like/love, is my halfway solution up to now.

Is there a place on this planet where one is (guaranteed to be) left alone?

[Parts]

Um, my 50 pence worth?

In the centre of this small city there are over 30 cameras hanging on 'strategic' points. Føckers (police) here use them for other things than solving or preventing crime also though.

An example, and I remember more than one, but.. I once was 'spotted', riding my bicycle back to home in the evening.. without lights (albeit small but that's a violation of the law here). Just bought some groceries in the downtown supermarket and they saw, via their camera network, where I was heading and they called their street collegaes and I was given a ticket (of €50) there and then.

Føckers also tracked me down via my old cell phone. I was riding my moped in a rural area a little up north from this city and out of the blue a helicopter popped up above me and for the sake of.. what? Well, fuck it started following me. So I went off-road onto forest paths (trees in full 'plumage'), switched off my phone and did 'me old' 270° trick. And got rid of them.

Don't like paranoid thinking (don't care about that stuff/not to be scared off by unethical fear-mongery) but this city, powers that be, crossed some quite thickly drawn lines and some are total scum of the earth. Irresponsibly and mega-stupid.

No lights on your bike at night holy shit, you got off easy with just a ticket for a serious crime such as that you should have done jail time.  I sleep easier now knowing they installed those cams to catch serious offenders such as yourself.

[TheoK]

A good cop is a dead cop 

[Adam]

Riding a bike without lights at night can cause an accident

[TheoK]

Riding a bike without lights at night can cause an accident

 

[TA]

Riding a bike without lights at night can cause an accident

Spoons cause obesity, alcohol causes DUI, and guns kill people. 

[Adam]

What a fucking retarded response

There are road safety laws. Stick to them, or stay off the roads

[Adam]

And yes, guns do kill people. What else do you think they're for? Substitute dildos?

[Beardy McFuckface]

I will only support CCTV if they stop the nonsense campaign of preventing photographers taking pictures in public, otherwise it's double standards to me.