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Re: Okay, yeah. One last thread.
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2011, 08:13:55 AM »
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Quote from: MLA on December 06, 2011, 09:53:51 AM
Just wanted to share that I was accepted into my backup law school yesterday.  Still waiting on my first choice, but the question of whether or not I will be pursuing a legal education is now answered.

I don't know why I am sharing this here.  I guess I don't think this particular topic can devolve into dramatic statements and callouts over minutiae, but you all have a chance to prove me wrong.   :GA:

Lawyers are EVILLL!!!! We must kill you before you become one!

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Lots of people express that sentiment. I don't buy it. The 6th amendment augments the 5th amendment to a huge degree. Of course if you want to put your life and liberty where your mouth is you could elect to represent yourself in court if you are ever charged with a felony.   :thumbup:

In Stalin's USSR there were not any pesty lawyers giving any real counterpoint to government accusations.

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People who bash lawyers tend to stop if they are ever charged with a crime or if they need the services of an attorney for some other reason.  Personally, I think they're great.
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Re: Okay, yeah. One last thread.
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2011, 11:43:00 AM »
Thanks everyone  :clap:
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Re: Okay, yeah. One last thread.
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2011, 12:28:44 PM »
Congratulations MLA. If I may ask, what field of Law are you going into?
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Re: Okay, yeah. One last thread.
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2011, 01:39:41 PM »
Quote from: Callaway on December 07, 2011, 08:13:55 AM
Quote from: PPK on December 06, 2011, 11:01:04 PM
Quote from: Grease Monkey on December 06, 2011, 10:45:23 PM
Quote from: MLA on December 06, 2011, 09:53:51 AM
Just wanted to share that I was accepted into my backup law school yesterday.  Still waiting on my first choice, but the question of whether or not I will be pursuing a legal education is now answered.

I don't know why I am sharing this here.  I guess I don't think this particular topic can devolve into dramatic statements and callouts over minutiae, but you all have a chance to prove me wrong.   :GA:

Lawyers are EVILLL!!!! We must kill you before you become one!

:arrr: :arrr: :arrr:
Lots of people express that sentiment. I don't buy it. The 6th amendment augments the 5th amendment to a huge degree. Of course if you want to put your life and liberty where your mouth is you could elect to represent yourself in court if you are ever charged with a felony.   :thumbup:

In Stalin's USSR there were not any pesty lawyers giving any real counterpoint to government accusations.

 :agreed:

People who bash lawyers tend to stop if they are ever charged with a crime or if they need the services of an attorney for some other reason.  Personally, I think they're great.

Lawyers are a necessary evil. In a perfect world,  our legal system would be easy enough for an average person to navigate without the need of a professional lawyer.

Since that's probably not possible, the next best thing would be to have a socialized legal system which would remove the pornographic profits that are made off of people's legal entanglements. Many Lawyers are so narcissistic that they don't need the profit motive to do a good job, feeding their egos is all that they need to be motivated.
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Re: Okay, yeah. One last thread.
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2011, 03:29:58 PM »
Quote from: Grease Monkey on December 07, 2011, 01:39:41 PM
Many Lawyers are so narcissistic that they don't need the profit motive to do a good job, feeding their egos is all that they need to be motivated.

That's only true of some lawyers.
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Re: Okay, yeah. One last thread.
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2011, 04:48:21 PM »
Quote from: Calavera on December 07, 2011, 03:29:58 PM
Quote from: Grease Monkey on December 07, 2011, 01:39:41 PM
Many Lawyers are so narcissistic that they don't need the profit motive to do a good job, feeding their egos is all that they need to be motivated.

That's only true of some lawyers.

It's true of most of the ones I've met.
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Re: Okay, yeah. One last thread.
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2011, 04:57:36 PM »
Quote from: Grease Monkey on December 07, 2011, 04:48:21 PM
Quote from: Calavera on December 07, 2011, 03:29:58 PM
Quote from: Grease Monkey on December 07, 2011, 01:39:41 PM
Many Lawyers are so narcissistic that they don't need the profit motive to do a good job, feeding their egos is all that they need to be motivated.

That's only true of some lawyers.

It's true of most of the ones I've met.

We had two lawyers helping us with our daughter's school situation and I would say that it is not true for them.  I also have a close friend who is a lawyer and it is not true for him.  If anything, they are very geared to finding out what it is that others want, so they can be effective negotiators for their clients.

Also, you seem to think that all lawyers are wealthy.  Some are while others aren't.
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Re: Okay, yeah. One last thread.
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2011, 06:11:02 PM »
As a state auditor for Louisiana I audited both the parish District Attorney and the parish Indigent Defender Board the same year.  Yep, those guys (both sides) were the epitome of narcissism. 
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Re: Okay, yeah. One last thread.
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2011, 07:22:10 PM »
Quote from: Callaway on December 07, 2011, 04:57:36 PM
Also, you seem to think that all lawyers are wealthy.  Some are while others aren't.

I never said that. I was making a point about removing the exorbitant amount they charge. Many lawyers charge $400+ per hour.
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Re: Okay, yeah. One last thread.
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2011, 08:47:50 PM »
^Wow. I would probably be able to afford... an hour.

But congratulations MLA. :) I too am curious about what type of law you are most interested in.
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Re: Okay, yeah. One last thread.
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2011, 09:22:15 PM »
I have no idea.  My experience so far is in insurance law.  :yawn:

I would love to work for a non-profit like the ACLU, but by the time I graduate I will owe $140,000 in student loans and non-profits can't pay a living wage when you have that much debt.  This is why lawyers are expensive. 
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Re: Okay, yeah. One last thread.
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2011, 09:29:53 PM »
Quote from: MLA on December 07, 2011, 09:22:15 PM
I have no idea.  My experience so far is in insurance law.  :yawn:

I would love to work for a non-profit like the ACLU, but by the time I graduate I will owe $140,000 in student loans and non-profits can't pay a living wage when you have that much debt.  This is why lawyers are expensive.

So you would be paying about $1600 a month in student loan payments when you graduate?
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Re: Okay, yeah. One last thread.
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2011, 01:28:10 AM »
Quote from: MLA on December 07, 2011, 09:22:15 PM
I have no idea.  My experience so far is in insurance law.  :yawn:

I would love to work for a non-profit like the ACLU, but by the time I graduate I will owe $140,000 in student loans and non-profits can't pay a living wage when you have that much debt.  This is why lawyers are expensive.

Indeed.

How long until you graduate, if I may ask?
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Re: Okay, yeah. One last thread.
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2011, 01:38:02 AM »
The only area of law I'd be interested in is property law/conveyancing, but that doesn't pay much more than I'm getting now, probably because it's the area of law that's the least stressful (as opposed to family law and criminal law etc).

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Re: Okay, yeah. One last thread.
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2011, 06:11:54 AM »
gratz MLA
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