I knew it was a bad idea to reply to you, Butterflies. No way you could simply accept that what I told you was and still is my opinion and my perceptions, and accept that I only replied because you asked me to.
Re Pandora: I meant apologising to her BEFORE she had said a single word. That's when it was still simply Les trying to explain and you refusing to see. Don't try to shift it to an apology wanted after the drama took place. Although that, too, would have impressed me.
The fact of the matter was that several people, you included, started reposting TCO's past posts while he was still banned at his own request. Check if you want. I can't be arsed.
You said you didn't need me quoting stuff (and I'm paraphrasing from the impression I got from your posts asking me to explain) but then brought the quotes yourself, only to highlight the posts I actually apologised for later on, namely those having to do with teaching you a lesson which I still think was unwarranted but made in the heat of the moment. Look at the dates and times. Nice going.
You are moving the goalposts again, Butterflies. Whether or not you do it consciously I don't know or really care about any more, but you are doing it.
As for you staying or going, your choice. Until you posted in good faith or whatever it was, I noticed that you hadn't really participated here so I assumed that you had left, presumably for this thread's namesake site for the cool young ones.
But don't make that choice about me or how you might not fit into my plans for the site because that's bullshit and just a variant of your previous strawmen re me. Or, for that matter, about how you can't change. You know bloody well how this place works and I don't have any plans other than the automated payments to hostgator. You are accountable for your actions, you need to back them up or face the wrath of the community, etc. That's all.
You stay or you go. Not going to decide it for you, it's something you have to do. But if you stay, also know that the site is unlikely to change.
Oh, and to whomever it concerns: Yes, I'm aware of Butterflies being a lot younger than I am. I assumed she wanted to be treated as an adult because a) this site is for adults only and b) the young adults tend to be pissed off when their elders treat them as lesser beings because of their age. Would you prefer me to give her a pat on the head and hope she'll grow up some day?
