Video Released of Texas Judge Beating Daughter

[El]

Oh I'm not saying what the mother did was right I am wondering if it would have been worse for them if she hadn't "gone along with it". 

...and had, like, gotten the fuck OUT of that situation?  Yeah, the dad had a fuckton of political swing.  Mom still got out eventually.  Why didn't she get out sooner?

Mom failed as a mom.  Straight up.  Just because she's a victim too doesn't means she's blameless.

The daughter is still all fucked up about what her role should be in the family.  She regrets hurting her father's career?  Just wanted him to get help?  forserious?  Sounds like she's still damaged and still emotionally enmeshed in an unhealthy way.  Probably is with mer mother, too.  It happens in familys with domestic violence.  Her role might well have been/might still be "people pleaser."  Unless she works through this shite more than a bit, if she doesn't end up with a guy that abuses her, it'll be a bloody miracle, might I add.

Did I say she was blameless?

No I didn't , I did say that she was a victim of emotional abuse but not that she was completely innocent in any form.

Yes, but you also implied that staying in the situation may have been protective on the mother's part, rather than ngeligent.  I don't buy that.

[Squidusa]

Oh I'm not saying what the mother did was right I am wondering if it would have been worse for them if she hadn't "gone along with it". 

...and had, like, gotten the fuck OUT of that situation?  Yeah, the dad had a fuckton of political swing.  Mom still got out eventually.  Why didn't she get out sooner?

Mom failed as a mom.  Straight up.  Just because she's a victim too doesn't means she's blameless.

The daughter is still all fucked up about what her role should be in the family.  She regrets hurting her father's career?  Just wanted him to get help?  forserious?  Sounds like she's still damaged and still emotionally enmeshed in an unhealthy way.  Probably is with mer mother, too.  It happens in familys with domestic violence.  Her role might well have been/might still be "people pleaser."  Unless she works through this shite more than a bit, if she doesn't end up with a guy that abuses her, it'll be a bloody miracle, might I add.

Did I say she was blameless?

No I didn't , I did say that she was a victim of emotional abuse but not that she was completely innocent in any form.

Yes, but you also implied that staying in the situation may have been protective on the mother's part, rather than ngeligent.  I don't buy that.

No I didn't

I did say that I wonder what would have happened had the mother not gone along with the father and whether the outcome would have been worse or better.

Oh I'm not saying what the mother did was right I am wondering if it would have been worse for them if she hadn't "gone along with it". 

I never implied it was protective on the mothers part if you chose to read that then that's what you read , I simply wondered what the outcome would have been if the mother hadn't acted differently.

[Callaway]

Oh I'm not saying what the mother did was right I am wondering if it would have been worse for them if she hadn't "gone along with it". 

...and had, like, gotten the fuck OUT of that situation?  Yeah, the dad had a fuckton of political swing.  Mom still got out eventually.  Why didn't she get out sooner?

Mom failed as a mom.  Straight up.  Just because she's a victim too doesn't means she's blameless.

The daughter is still all fucked up about what her role should be in the family.  She regrets hurting her father's career?  Just wanted him to get help?  forserious?  Sounds like she's still damaged and still emotionally enmeshed in an unhealthy way.  Probably is with mer mother, too.  It happens in familys with domestic violence.  Her role might well have been/might still be "people pleaser."  Unless she works through this shite more than a bit, if she doesn't end up with a guy that abuses her, it'll be a bloody miracle, might I add.

Did I say she was blameless?

No I didn't , I did say that she was a victim of emotional abuse but not that she was completely innocent in any form.

Yes, but you also implied that staying in the situation may have been protective on the mother's part, rather than ngeligent.  I don't buy that.

I think that is entirely possible.

Imagine you were married to a judge who was physically violent and also attacked your self-esteem. 

If you were in that state of mind, you might well believe that your judge husband would have plenty of judge friends and would be able to get custody of your children in a divorce and thus you may believe that the best thing for your children would be for you to stay in an abusive situation and be a buffer between their violent father and them because you think you wouldn't be able to get custody of them.  In the video, Hillary's mom told her husband numerous times that he had already done enough and I think that she struck her daughter with the belt that one time because she hoped that would keep the father from striking her daughter any more himself.

[Callaway]

of course this is the state of Texas

that was an example of oldstyle punishment from before the 1970`s


painful to watch, I cant believe the mother didnt step in sooner, it was obvious she was in the room


Statute of limitations has run out, so he cant be arrested.

As said before this is texas, he will probably be re-elected

He's a judge, so he knows the law very well.  That statute of limitations is probably the reason he continued to financially support Hillary and provide her with a Mercedes until it ran out and he knew he couldn't be arrested for what he had done to her.

The statute of limitations might be 10 years for this case, so he could still be criminally liable.

(2) ten years from the date of the commission of the offense:
(A) theft of any estate, real, personal or mixed, by an executor, administrator, guardian or trustee, with intent to defraud any creditor, heir, legatee, ward, distributee, beneficiary or settlor of a trust interested in such estate;

(B) theft by a public servant of government property over which he exercises control in his official capacity;

(C) forgery or the uttering, using or passing of forged instruments;

(D) injury to a child, elderly individual, or disabled individual punishable as a felony of the first degree under Section 22.04, Penal Code;

(E) sexual assault, except as provided by Subdivision (1) or (5); or

(F) arson;

Apparently, the statute of limitations for beating your kids is five years in Texas, since I just read that he won't be criminally prosecuted for the beating that was videotaped.

McALLEN, Texas -- A Texas family law judge whose daughter secretly videotaped him savagely beating her seven years ago won't face criminal charges because too much time has elapsed, police said Thursday.

Aransas County Court-at-Law Judge William Adams likely would have been charged with causing injury to a child or other assault-related offenses for the 2004 beating of his then-16-year-old daughter, but the five-year statutes of limitations expired, Rockport Police Chief Tim Jayroe said.

"We believe that there was a criminal offense involved and that there was substantial evidence to indicate that and under normal circumstances ... a charge could have been made," Jayroe said. He said the district attorney determined he couldn't bring charges, and that police would discuss the case with federal prosecutors even though he doesn't believe federal charges would apply.

Hillary Adams, now 23, posted the 8-minute clip on YouTube last week that shows her father viciously lashing her with a belt and trying to force her to bend over her bed to be beaten despite her wails and pleas to stop. The clip had received more than 2.4 million hits as of Thursday, and police began investigating Wednesday after hearing from concerned citizens.

William Adams, 51, issued a three-page statement Thursday saying his daughter posted the clip to get back at him for telling her he would be reducing the amount of financial support he gives her and taking away her Mercedes. The statement did not include an apology for the beating, but he told Corpus Christi television station KZTV on Wednesday that the video "looks worse than it is," that he had already apologized to his daughter and that he was just disciplining his child for stealing.

Hillary Adams says her parents were angry because she had downloaded pirated content online, and that she turned on the camera because she sensed something was going to happen.

William Adams, who presides over child abuse cases, is still being investigated by the state's judicial conduct commission and the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services, which on Thursday requested that he be removed from its cases until the investigation concludes.


Patrick Crimmins, a spokesman for the agency, declined to elaborate on the exact nature of the investigation. But he said that in general, the agency would only investigate a case in which a suspected abuse victim has already reached adulthood if there are still children in the home who could be at risk. Adams was granted joint custody of his 10-year-old daughter in his 2007 divorce.

There are no allegations of alleged abuse by Adams against his younger daughter, who primarily resides with her mother, Hallie Adams. Crimmins declined to say whether his agency is investigating the parental fitness of Hallie Adams, who lashed Hillary once during the 2004 beating.

Crimmins said his agency ordinarily wouldn't disclose that it is investigating someone, but that it did in this case because the investigation is the reason it requested that William Adams be taken off its cases.

Jayroe said that police did not interview the younger daughter, but asked both Hallie and Hillary Adams about it and there was no indication of abuse of the younger daughter.

In his statement Thursday, Adams said he would "respond" to all investigations. As Aransas County's top judge, he has dealt with at least 349 family law cases in the past year alone, nearly 50 of which involved state caseworkers seeking determine whether parents were fit to raise their children.

County officials confirmed that Adams will not hear cases related to Child Protective Services for at least the next two weeks. And the top administrator in Aransas County cast doubt on whether Adams could credibly return to the bench.

"I would think it would be very difficult," said Aransas County Judge C.H. "Burt" Mills Jr. "Personally I don't see how he can recover from this."

If the judicial commission and police investigations don't lead to punishment or charges, Adams could be safe on the bench until he's up for re-election in three years.

Hillary Adams said she waited so long to expose her father because she was terrified at what might have happened had she done so while still living under his roof. She said the outpouring of support and encouragement she's received since posting the clip is tempered by the sadness that it's her father repeatedly lashing her with a belt and threatening to beat her "into submission."

During an interview with her mother Thursday on NBC's "Today" show, Hillary Adams said her father regularly beat her for a period of time. has repeatedly said she didn't post the clip to spite her father, and that she hopes it forces him to seek help.

Her mother blamed her ex-husband's bouts of violence on an "addiction." She called it a "family secret," but declined to elaborate.

In his statement, though, William Adams painted a starkly different picture of why his daughter posted the clip.

"Just prior to the YouTube upload, a concerned father shared with his 23-year-old daughter that he was unwilling to continue to work hard and be her primary source of financial support, if she was going to simply `drop out,' and strive to achieve no more in life than to work part time at a video game store," Adams' statement said. "Hillary warned her father if he reduced her financial support, and took away her Mercedes automobile, which her father had provided, he would live to regret it."

Hillary Adams did not immediately respond to email requests Thursday seeking a response.

[Frolic_Fun]

Stuff like this should put him into prison for a long time. Sadly such people tend to get away with it with a legal slap to the wrist.

That said, it may be cruel and horrible but frankly crying over it won't make it go away. Shit like this happens all the time all over the world everyday, mostly unnoticed and unreported. The best way is to not beat the crap out of your kids if you don't like it, rather than care about other kids.

(I'll probably be a child beater if I had a kid, but that's why I'm not having one. )

[Squidusa]

Stuff like this should put him into prison for a long time. Sadly such people tend to get away with it with a legal slap to the wrist.

That said, it may be cruel and horrible but frankly crying over it won't make it go away. Shit like this happens all the time all over the world everyday, mostly unnoticed and unreported. The best way is to not beat the crap out of your kids if you don't like it, rather than care about other kids.

(I'll probably be a child beater if I had a kid, but that's why I'm not having one. )

Crying over it won't make it go away no , but what you are proposing is effectively sweeping it away under the rug , I don't get how that will work either.

Of course it will never go away but steps can and MUST be taken to minimise it.

[Frolic_Fun]

No, I'm not ignoring the problem. I'm just pointing out that there's a lot more to it, to the point that caring about one child is meaningless. They'll still get the shit kicked out of them, regardless what you do.

but steps can and MUST be taken to minimise it.

What steps do you propose to such a major problem?

[Genesis]

I was disgusted by this... so I have nothing more to say.

[Squidusa]

No, I'm not ignoring the problem. I'm just pointing out that there's a lot more to it, to the point that caring about one child is meaningless. They'll still get the shit kicked out of them, regardless what you do.

But if you give up on that one child , that one child becomes 10 , then it becomes 100 etc.

What steps do you propose to such a major problem?

Mainly awareness , teach people to recognise the signs of abuse , so that SOMEONE picks up on it , and possibly make social services quicker to investigate rather than "we need proof before we can properly investigate" , if someones child is being abused I think there should be immediate attention on it if it's false it's false and that's brilliant if it's true intervention has happened.

Typing this while half awake apologies if this makes no sense.

[Frolic_Fun]

But if you give up on that one child , that one child becomes 10 , then it becomes 100 etc.

There's already shitloads of cases and it grows rapidly regardless if you care or not. Here's some statistics I lifted off this website (http://www.jimhopper.com/abstats/#unrpt):

The report includes the following overview statistics (section II. B., pp. 9-10, with references to specific studies provided for each):

    Almost 53,000 children died worldwide in 2002 as a result of homicide.

    Up to 80 to 98% of children suffer physical punishment in their homes, with a third or more experiencing severe physical punishment resulting from the use of implements.

    150 million girls and 73 million boys under 18 experienced forced sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual violence during 2002.

    Between 100 and 140 million girls and women in the world have undergone some form of female genital mutilation/cutting. In sub-Saharan Africa, Egypt and the Sudan, 3 million girls and women are subjected to genital mutilation/cutting every year.

    In 2004, 218 million children were involved in child labour, of whom 126 million were in hazardous work.

    Estimates from 2000 suggest that 1.8 million children were forced into prostitution and pornography, and 1.2 million were victims of trafficking.

Mainly awareness , teach people to recognise the signs of abuse , so that SOMEONE picks up on it , and possibly make social services quicker to investigate rather than "we need proof before we can properly investigate" , if someones child is being abused I think there should be immediate attention on it if it's false it's false and that's brilliant if it's true intervention has happened.

Typing this while half awake apologies if this makes no sense.

There has been attempts at awareness, along with services such as childline etc. Despite these attempts, the problem is still growing. There is also the issue that people are too stubborn to care and hit their children regardless, despite how much "awareness" you throw about.

[Squidusa]

But if you give up on that one child , that one child becomes 10 , then it becomes 100 etc.

There's already shitloads of cases and it grows rapidly regardless if you care or not. Here's some statistics I lifted off this website (http://www.jimhopper.com/abstats/#unrpt):

The report includes the following overview statistics (section II. B., pp. 9-10, with references to specific studies provided for each):

    Almost 53,000 children died worldwide in 2002 as a result of homicide.

    Up to 80 to 98% of children suffer physical punishment in their homes, with a third or more experiencing severe physical punishment resulting from the use of implements.

    150 million girls and 73 million boys under 18 experienced forced sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual violence during 2002.

    Between 100 and 140 million girls and women in the world have undergone some form of female genital mutilation/cutting. In sub-Saharan Africa, Egypt and the Sudan, 3 million girls and women are subjected to genital mutilation/cutting every year.

    In 2004, 218 million children were involved in child labour, of whom 126 million were in hazardous work.

    Estimates from 2000 suggest that 1.8 million children were forced into prostitution and pornography, and 1.2 million were victims of trafficking.

Mainly awareness , teach people to recognise the signs of abuse , so that SOMEONE picks up on it , and possibly make social services quicker to investigate rather than "we need proof before we can properly investigate" , if someones child is being abused I think there should be immediate attention on it if it's false it's false and that's brilliant if it's true intervention has happened.

Typing this while half awake apologies if this makes no sense.

There has been attempts at awareness, along with services such as childline etc. Despite these attempts, the problem is still growing. There is also the issue that people are too stubborn to care and hit their children regardless, despite how much "awareness" you throw about.

But by throwing less awareness around surely the problem would increase?

[Frolic_Fun]

My point is though that the problem increases regardless of awareness or not.

[Squidusa]

My point is though that the problem increases regardless of awareness or not.

Well then I'm not sure what to do. 

Idk , I just don't think awareness should be dropped or as you proposed simply paying attention to your own kid, maybe it's me thinking emotively that I think kids who have been through this kind of abuse are in desperate need of caring and love.

/maternal mode activated. 

[Frolic_Fun]

But the only difference applies to your own kids. Once you don't beat your kids and teach them not to beat their future kids, they will probably tell their kids the importance of not beating etc etc. over various generations until it branches off to different families doing the same thing, so in a sense you're doing something that's more beneficial in the long run. In other words you're planting a seed, in a sense.

The more people do this, there would possibly be a decrease in such abuse. This is also the case when awareness would actually help too, since it'll reinforce rather than announce.

[Squidusa]

But the only difference applies to your own kids. Once you don't beat your kids and teach them not to beat their future kids, they will probably tell their kids the importance of not beating etc etc. over various generations until it branches off to different families doing the same thing, so in a sense you're doing something that's more beneficial in the long run. In other words you're planting a seed, in a sense.

The more people do this, there would possibly be a decrease in such abuse. This is also the case when awareness would actually help too, since it'll reinforce rather than announce.

Ah ok , now that makes sense.
I thought you were saying just focus on your own kids and forget about others , but I see your point about teaching them.

Exactly why I shouldn't get into debates when half asleep.