terrorist attack in oslo

[Queen Victoria]

There were some heroes in the island massacre:

"Otto Loevik, who declined to be interviewed, was one of several campers who came to the rescue of the youths Friday, transporting them to the Utvika campsite and rushing back again, throwing lifejackets to those they could not take on board."

Unfortunately, he and the other rescuers had to choose who to take on board the boats.  Truly horrific decisions.

[ZEGH8578]

There were some heroes in the island massacre:

"Otto Loevik, who declined to be interviewed, was one of several campers who came to the rescue of the youths Friday, transporting them to the Utvika campsite and rushing back again, throwing lifejackets to those they could not take on board."

Unfortunately, he and the other rescuers had to choose who to take on board the boats.  Truly horrific decisions.

countless such stories.
people on the island used their phones to text and twitter locals to get to their boats

['andersom']

I can understand why some people snap, I just can't see how they choose innocent people as victims.

It's damn cowardly.

This wasn't snapping.
It was planned.
The man was "rational" within his delusion.
His goal was to create as much havoc as possible, to disrupt society as hard as he could.
He knows what he has done, he is not regretting it.

Things his lawyer told today. 

[The_Chosen_One]

Makes Martin Bryant and Julian Knight look like playground bullies giving wedgies to the freshmen.

[ZEGH8578]

I can understand why some people snap, I just can't see how they choose innocent people as victims.

It's damn cowardly.

This wasn't snapping.
It was planned.
The man was "rational" within his delusion.
His goal was to create as much havoc as possible, to disrupt society as hard as he could.
He knows what he has done, he is not regretting it.

Things his lawyer told today.

yes
he dedicated 9 years to it...
i cant think but 9 years times douchebag... what a deluded sense of priority...

[Squidusa]

I can understand why some people snap, I just can't see how they choose innocent people as victims.

It's damn cowardly.

I know what you mean.

If he had snapped I would have had some degree of pity but eh , this guy is pure evil.
I hope he gets a fitting punishment.

['Butterflies']

I read that the maximum penalty he can serve in Norway is 21 years. I hope they make an exception for him, and lock him away for the rest of his life.

[Squidusa]

I read that the maximum penalty he can serve in Norway is 21 years. I hope they make an exception for him, and lock him away for the rest of his life.

21 years is too short.

I don't support the death sentence , but Idk somethings changed now , and I kinda see why Bin Laden was killed.
Long story short I hope the fucker swings from the gallows.

The thought of 14 year old kids running for their life is heartbreaking , when I read about this I actually cried I never usually get so upset by these kind of things. 

[midlifeaspie]

I read that the maximum penalty he can serve in Norway is 21 years. I hope they make an exception for him, and lock him away for the rest of his life.

21 years is too short.

I don't support the death sentence , but Idk somethings changed now , and I kinda see why Bin Laden was killed.
Long story short I hope the fucker swings from the gallows.

The thought of 14 year old kids running for their life is heartbreaking , when I read about this I actually cried I never usually get so upset by these kind of things. 

I'm pretty sure Norway doesn't have a death penalty.

[midlifeaspie]

Nope.

Belarus is the last country in Europe to still have it (and is the poorest).

[ZEGH8578]

I read that the maximum penalty he can serve in Norway is 21 years. I hope they make an exception for him, and lock him away for the rest of his life.

i explained on some pages ago :]
there IS an exception for cases like this. there IS a possibility for a lifetime in jail.

[Scrapheap]

I can understand why some people snap, I just can't see how they choose innocent people as victims.

It's damn cowardly.

This wasn't snapping.
It was planned.
The man was "rational" within his delusion.
His goal was to create as much havoc as possible, to disrupt society as hard as he could.
He knows what he has done, he is not regretting it.

Things his lawyer told today.

yes
he dedicated 9 years to it...
i cant think but 9 years times douchebag... what a deluded sense of priority...

So he snapped at least 9 years ago, but at some point he did snap.

You can't say that this guy is perfectly sane.

You used the right word ZEGH, deluded. Not to mention ego-maniacal and solipsistic

[Callaway]

I can understand why some people snap, I just can't see how they choose innocent people as victims.

It's damn cowardly.

This wasn't snapping.
It was planned.
The man was "rational" within his delusion.
His goal was to create as much havoc as possible, to disrupt society as hard as he could.
He knows what he has done, he is not regretting it.

Things his lawyer told today.

yes
he dedicated 9 years to it...
i cant think but 9 years times douchebag... what a deluded sense of priority...

So he snapped at least 9 years ago, but at some point he did snap.

You can't say that this guy is perfectly sane.

You used the right word ZEGH, deluded. Not to mention ego-maniacal and solipsistic

When I think of someone snapping, I picture someone who was OK before and will be OK after the snap happened, not someone who took nine years to plot and plan his revenge on society.

This feels much more deliberate to me.

[Scrapheap]

When I think of someone snapping, I picture someone who was OK before and will be OK after the snap happened, not someone who took nine years to plot and plan his revenge on society.

This feels much more deliberate to me.

I don't think the two are mutually exclusive. Look at Ted Kaczynski.

As a matter of fact, the first few pages of Anders Breivik's Manifesto was a direct plaigerism of the Unabomber Manifesto.

There's your explanation right there, Anders is Norway's Ted Kaczynski. 

[Parts]

Sure he snapped and is nuts but he knew perfectly well what he was doing and that it was so very wrong it is no excuse.  While I am no fan of the death penalty by any means this is clear enough he could have a choice in penlites.  One cooperate fully and live the rest of his life as a test subject to find out WTF went wrong with his brain so as to help prevent such things in the future tests could and will include some very invasive tests. Or two he gets slathered in seal blubber  and dropped off naked on an ice flow with hungry polar bears far from land.