(I didn't ask Rissy to join I2, I wouldn't really recommend it to anyone tbh)
Ok so there appears to be at least two issues at play here.
First being the misgendering and refusal to use the pronouns I prefer.
Second being my apparent misconduct in explaining my position.
On the first, specifically Odeon's rebuttal that it takes concious effort; A lot of things take conscious effort. Like make allowances for autistic behaviour, and making spaces safe for autistic people. Applying your apparent logic to that would mean no one should really bother to make any allowances for autistic people, or indeed any differently able people because it take a conscious effort for them to do so. It's poor logic.
Conscious effort *here*. Did you deliberately try to generalise the issue? Poor logic, if so.
But then again, you only have to take a quick look at the outside world to see that you are wrong. Most people don't give a shit. They do not make any allowances unless it is in their interest to do so. Don't like it? Tough.
On the second, I don't believe I used emotional manipulation at all. Point out some examples from this thread where I have done so?
This issue is close to me, obviously. And I am engaged in spreading awareness and understanding of the issues, not just for transpeople, but for all diverse sexuality and gender people, and for autism and other disabilities. I'm a bit of an activist in that respect. I believe in knowledge and the reduction of ignorance. Yes I am passionate, and that shows in how I present my arguments. But I have never tried to emotionally manipulate anyone, that would be disingenuous and false conduct and would really undercut the validity of my arguments.
Yet by stating that you'll leave, etc, that's exactly what you are doing, especially when you keep coming back.
Self important blowhard? Self important maybe, but only to the extent that THIS ENTIRE ARGUMENT IS ABOUT ME. Hard not to be self important in such a situation, I think. Blowhard...I'm not even sure what that means to be honest.
No it's not. Read the thread.
Google will know. "A person who talks too much or too loudly, especially in a boastful or self-important manner". Hrm, I guess that might be accurate, but again, the two main arguments of this thread is about me. "GA is not a woman" "he" and "GA is an arrogant [...]" it's all about me. A bit hard not to be boastful or self-important. Do I talk too much? Possibly. But only in an endeavour to drive my point home.
Those two are the "main" arguments in this thread? The world doesn't revolve around you. Not even this thread.
My aim has always been to educate. Apart from people like Bint or Soph or Hyke, and maybe a few others, you all do seem to lack an understanding of some of issues about trans people. Call that arrogant or whatever, but that is how you appear. And you're only being wilfully ignorant to argue otherwise.
Try listening to what we are saying and maybe you'd get something more out of this thing.
I know, for a fact, that I am ignorant about a great many things. I can accept this, and I can only argue from a position of knowledge, whether actual or assumed.
I would like to thank Farnsworth, Rage, and others for referring to me as she. That's all I've ever asked for really.
I don't understand what I have done against you Odeon, for you to treat me with such disrespect. I've always respected you and thought you were a nice guy.
You might want to consider your part in this. I replied honestly but you did not like my views. Seems you refused to even consider them.
I posted about this thread on my Facebook wall, and two other forums. Excluding the forums as they're populated by trans people, on Facebook, I've had about half a dozen people exclaim surprise and horror at the comments expressed in this thread. Sure they're all friends of mine, but very few of them are as knowledgeable about trans issues as I would prefer. And they can all see how hurtful and disrespectful you've been to me and in some ways Soph.
The larger problem is I don't know how to discern the legitimate opinions from the trolling. So I take it all as serious and respond in kind.
No you don't. You take any disagreements as personal attacks and that is just not true. Go back and read what I said, the post you got your knickers in a twist for, see if there is another way of reading it than your knee-jerk reactions.