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Re: People's views regarding transpeople
« Reply #120 on: April 26, 2011, 05:46:08 AM »
And religion is different because it is about WHO someone is, not WHAT someone is. Attack someone for their beliefs, views, actions etc, fine (and yes, including my atheism). Attacking someone for what they are though, be it ethnicity, sex , sexuality or gender, is just weak imo. And very different

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Re: People's views regarding transpeople
« Reply #121 on: April 26, 2011, 05:49:05 AM »
And religion is different because it is about WHO someone is, not WHAT someone is. Attack someone for their beliefs, views, actions etc, fine (and yes, including my atheism). Attacking someone for what they are though, be it ethnicity, sex , sexuality or gender, is just weak imo. And very different

But... what if you have a go at the Jewish people? lol paradox as they are considered both religion and ethnicity. :zoinks:
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Re: People's views regarding transpeople
« Reply #122 on: April 26, 2011, 05:49:43 AM »
A few last points.

I never attack religious individuals. I attack RELIGIONS.

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As to the 'fuck off' and 'GTFO', I plan on doing exactly that. In a week.

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Re: People's views regarding transpeople
« Reply #123 on: April 26, 2011, 05:50:25 AM »
And religion is different because it is about WHO someone is, not WHAT someone is. Attack someone for their beliefs, views, actions etc, fine (and yes, including my atheism). Attacking someone for what they are though, be it ethnicity, sex , sexuality or gender, is just weak imo. And very different

But... what if you have a go at the Jewish people? lol paradox as they are considered both religion and ethnicity. :zoinks:

 In that case it would depend on whether one made fun of the religious aspect or the ethnic aspect.  :P
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Re: People's views regarding transpeople
« Reply #124 on: April 26, 2011, 05:51:16 AM »
:agreed:

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Re: People's views regarding transpeople
« Reply #125 on: April 26, 2011, 06:01:34 AM »
And religion is different because it is about WHO someone is, not WHAT someone is. Attack someone for their beliefs, views, actions etc, fine (and yes, including my atheism). Attacking someone for what they are though, be it ethnicity, sex , sexuality or gender, is just weak imo. And very different

If it makes you feel better about being a bigot, sure.
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Re: People's views regarding transpeople
« Reply #126 on: April 26, 2011, 06:02:29 AM »
And religion is different because it is about WHO someone is, not WHAT someone is. Attack someone for their beliefs, views, actions etc, fine (and yes, including my atheism). Attacking someone for what they are though, be it ethnicity, sex , sexuality or gender, is just weak imo. And very different

If it makes you feel better about being a bigot, sure.

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Re: People's views regarding transpeople
« Reply #127 on: April 26, 2011, 06:04:35 AM »
As to the 'fuck off' and 'GTFO', I plan on doing exactly that. In a week.

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Re: People's views regarding transpeople
« Reply #128 on: April 26, 2011, 06:04:48 AM »
Religion and culture are ingrained in a person. Not by genetics, not nature, but nurture. Just like the throat of someone speaking English is slightly different from someone speaking Zulu. The sounds made help shaping the body.

I may have gotten rid of the dogmas I was raised with, think I did a pretty good job with that. But my thinking structure will be influenced by Calvinism. That bit is part of me. And there is no way it can be taken away from me. I raise my kids free to question everything someone tells them to be true, and to doubt every absolute truth. But, in their thinking style, Calvinism will be there. I don't think it is a bad trait. Doesn't bother me.
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Re: People's views regarding transpeople
« Reply #129 on: April 26, 2011, 06:06:02 AM »
This is awfully GAY you guys. :zoinks:
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Re: People's views regarding transpeople
« Reply #130 on: April 26, 2011, 06:06:41 AM »
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Re: People's views regarding transpeople
« Reply #131 on: April 26, 2011, 06:07:13 AM »
Religion and culture are ingrained in a person. Not by genetics, not nature, but nurture. Just like the throat of someone speaking English is slightly different from someone speaking Zulu. The sounds made help shaping the body.

I may have gotten rid of the dogmas I was raised with, think I did a pretty good job with that. But my thinking structure will be influenced by Calvinism. That bit is part of me. And there is no way it can be taken away from me. I raise my kids free to question everything someone tells them to be true, and to doubt every absolute truth. But, in their thinking style, Calvinism will be there. I don't think it is a bad trait. Doesn't bother me.

That's not the same as being religious. I will have Church of England in me, it's not the same as me being a christian though

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Re: People's views regarding transpeople
« Reply #132 on: April 26, 2011, 06:13:55 AM »
Hykers, yarly. I'm lost. Just what the hell is this even about anymore? :laugh:
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Re: People's views regarding transpeople
« Reply #133 on: April 26, 2011, 06:14:43 AM »
It's about me being a bibot for taking the piss out of religion  :2thumbsup:

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Re: People's views regarding transpeople
« Reply #134 on: April 26, 2011, 06:19:21 AM »
Well, religion IS usually cancerous...
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They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

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