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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #510 on: December 06, 2008, 09:41:53 AM »
Your pacifism won't help you. The question is only if Big Brother or the niggers, Arabs etc. will come to you first. Because they will come to you one day. Probably (and hopefully) when you're old and really powerless even physically.

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« Reply #511 on: December 06, 2008, 03:21:41 PM »
Yes, dear.
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« Reply #512 on: December 06, 2008, 05:16:07 PM »
Your pacifism won't help you. The question is only if Big Brother or the niggers, Arabs etc. will come to you first. Because they will come to you one day. Probably (and hopefully) when you're old and really powerless even physically.
Did you read the report the US government did. About democracy and co not certainly lasting beyond 2025.

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« Reply #513 on: December 06, 2008, 05:21:19 PM »
I know. If we don't fight soon, we can never fight. The people in the USA can fight but don't understand that their own government is the enemy.  :(

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« Reply #514 on: December 06, 2008, 05:22:21 PM »
I know. If we don't fight soon, we can never fight. The people in the USA can fight but don't understand that their own government is the enemy.  :(
You do realise that our best chance as Aspies is an intellectual meritocracy. How we achieve it I really don't give a shit though - even if it is by subtraction ;)

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« Reply #515 on: December 06, 2008, 05:50:02 PM »
No. The only freedom is freedom from any government. Theodore Kaczynski is right. And the worst thing is that people could have overthrown the governments maybe as late as 100 years ago. 200 years ago it would certainly have been possible in the USA. But they didn't, because the USA was the most free country on Earth then. What an irony.  :(

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« Reply #516 on: December 06, 2008, 06:05:51 PM »
No. The only freedom is freedom from any government. Theodore Kaczynski is right. And the worst thing is that people could have overthrown the governments maybe as late as 100 years ago. 200 years ago it would certainly have been possible in the USA. But they didn't, because the USA was the most free country on Earth then. What an irony.  :(
You assume freedom equates to happiness - poor assumption. I do really not care about being totally free, I care about being as happy as possible. Lets face it if we gave NT's total freedom, we may as well handcuff ourselves to a ceiling somewhere. The interesting thing about freedom is to give one freedom is ultimately going to deny another, unless you very naively expect people to be good human beings interested in increasing one anothers well being. Our greatest chance at relative liberty also happens to be the intellectial meritocracy I advocate.

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« Reply #517 on: December 06, 2008, 06:26:49 PM »
Please take your meds. Both of you.
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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #518 on: December 06, 2008, 07:37:01 PM »
Please take your meds. Both of you.
Feel free to actually argue with me when you are up to it. Might want to do a good amount of reading on the topic first mind.

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« Reply #519 on: December 06, 2008, 10:46:57 PM »
I know. If we don't fight soon, we can never fight. The people in the USA can fight but don't understand that their own government is the enemy.  :(


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How can you believe such bullshit!
Yes, there are many areas that need some spring cleaning (I might say that we should just perforate the bill of rights like toilet paper and tear it off just past the first Ten Amendments), but you forget, we have a working Constitution, already. It works,well. In fact, many parts of it have been imitated around the globe. No suck-ass secondary country, yet, has the entire text of our statutes to live by, though.
We have drifted from the Founding Fathers intentions a great deal, but just watch. You will still be jealous of my Great country when you are struggling to find one more breath.

All of your ilk will be.
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Jimi Hendrix: When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. 

Ghandi: Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.

The end result of life's daily pain and suffering, trials and failures, tears and laughter, readings and listenings is an accumulation of wisdom in its purest form.

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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #520 on: December 06, 2008, 10:53:36 PM »
Please take your meds. Both of you.

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Nah, it's more telling this way.

... and then some teenpunk socialist from a foreign land, who knows basically, fuck all, thinks that I, (.)I(.) should learn more about the country I live in.

Fucking brilliant!


 
Jimi Hendrix: When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. 

Ghandi: Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.

The end result of life's daily pain and suffering, trials and failures, tears and laughter, readings and listenings is an accumulation of wisdom in its purest form.

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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #521 on: December 07, 2008, 08:37:47 AM »
Please take your meds. Both of you.
Feel free to actually argue with me when you are up to it. Might want to do a good amount of reading on the topic first mind.

Read your rants? Or those by the jailed kook Lit is idolising? Sorry, I'm busy. There's some paint drying I want to watch. :yawn:
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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #522 on: December 07, 2008, 01:12:28 PM »
I know. If we don't fight soon, we can never fight. The people in the USA can fight but don't understand that their own government is the enemy.  :(


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How can you believe such bullshit!
Yes, there are many areas that need some spring cleaning (I might say that we should just perforate the bill of rights like toilet paper and tear it off just past the first Ten Amendments), but you forget, we have a working Constitution, already. It works,well. In fact, many parts of it have been imitated around the globe. No suck-ass secondary country, yet, has the entire text of our statutes to live by, though.
We have drifted from the Founding Fathers intentions a great deal, but just watch. You will still be jealous of my Great country when you are struggling to find one more breath.

All of your ilk will be.

Words on a paper don't matter. What matters is that modern societies are oppressing the human spirit. It won't help that a country is the least oppressive one.

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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #523 on: December 07, 2008, 01:16:36 PM »
Please take your meds. Both of you.
Feel free to actually argue with me when you are up to it. Might want to do a good amount of reading on the topic first mind.

Read your rants? Or those by the jailed kook Lit is idolising? Sorry, I'm busy. There's some paint drying I want to watch. :yawn:

Socialism is a good idea though I don't believe in it, since it doesn't make the individual free, even if the state is torn down.

I just posted a few paragraphs of Kaczynski's manifesto, still I haven't heard any objective criticism of it.

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Re: The right to bear arms
« Reply #524 on: December 07, 2008, 01:24:48 PM »
Please take your meds. Both of you.

 :lol:

Nah, it's more telling this way.

... and then some teenpunk socialist from a foreign land, who knows basically, fuck all, thinks that I, (.)I(.) should learn more about the country I live in.

Fucking brilliant!

he calls himself a socialist, dawg, but he isn't - "intellectual meritocracy" is *not* a "socialist" concept.

besides, he keeps talking about books he's read (about socialism, i'm assuming).  some of us didn't get our socialism from books: some of us went out and *were* socialist, as in we did things rather than read about them.

and i don't mean blowing up road signs: i got explosions out of my system with contact explosive on the blackboard in A level chemistry, and then went and did useful things.