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Re: How many here are believers?
« Reply #90 on: March 29, 2011, 02:24:04 AM »
It would be like someone insisting that all trans people are gay, no matter what evidence there is to the contrary.
That's totally different. That would be similar if I was saying all christians are muslim
So trans and gay are mutually exclusive?

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Re: How many here are believers?
« Reply #91 on: March 29, 2011, 02:26:15 AM »
Of course not

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Re: How many here are believers?
« Reply #92 on: March 29, 2011, 02:57:17 AM »
Deist, because that's the closest option. However I believe it's the other way round, where a universe could naturally create a god-like entity over time.
Existence actually has two broad meanings despite its apparent meaningless. The constant reconciliation of all its parts, and the conservation of any closed system as a whole.

Morality can be extrapolated from these meanings to make these two commandments of godless morality: 1). Be in harmony with one another and 2). Care for the environment.

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Re: How many here are believers?
« Reply #93 on: March 29, 2011, 02:58:32 AM »
Deist, because that's the closest option. However I believe it's the other way round, where a universe could naturally create a god-like entity over time.

I think something like that happens indeed, but not as a real entity.
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Re: How many here are believers?
« Reply #94 on: March 29, 2011, 07:09:58 AM »


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Oh, baby!

That's one reason why I can't but believe God MUST exist!

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Re: How many here are believers?
« Reply #95 on: March 29, 2011, 07:13:56 AM »
A documentary on Madalyn Murray O'Hair I saw a couple of years ago really shocked me. I could not imagine a hate against atheists like that. Makes no sense. But, after seeing that documentary, I did get a bit more why some debates on religion were that heated.

Honestly, I can see why they didn't like her much. She was quite offensive to them. But then again, it's understandable. Religion really is a joke.

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Re: How many here are believers?
« Reply #96 on: March 29, 2011, 08:18:45 AM »
but religious people ARE idiots/wrong/dumb (take your pick)  :M

It takes the same level of faith to conclude that God does not exist as it does to conclude that God does exist.
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Re: How many here are believers?
« Reply #97 on: March 29, 2011, 11:52:02 AM »
but religious people ARE idiots/wrong/dumb (take your pick)  :M

The difference is between thinking it, and being unable to stop yourself from saying it every time the opportunity presents itself.

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Re: How many here are believers?
« Reply #98 on: March 29, 2011, 01:17:01 PM »
but religious people ARE idiots/wrong/dumb (take your pick)  :M

It takes the same level of faith to conclude that God does not exist as it does to conclude that God does exist.

So someone who doesn't believe in the tooth fairy is as crazy as someone who genuinely seriously believes in the tooth fairy and leaves their teeth under the pillow for it if they get knocked out?

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Re: How many here are believers?
« Reply #99 on: March 29, 2011, 01:22:30 PM »
but religious people ARE idiots/wrong/dumb (take your pick)  :M

It takes the same level of faith to conclude that God does not exist as it does to conclude that God does exist.

So someone who doesn't believe in the tooth fairy is as crazy as someone who genuinely seriously believes in the tooth fairy and leaves their teeth under the pillow for it if they get knocked out?

I am not referring to behavior. I am saying that there is the same amount of proof for the existence of the tooth fairy as there is against the existence of the tooth fairy.
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Re: How many here are believers?
« Reply #100 on: March 29, 2011, 01:24:33 PM »
Technically yes. But if I told you there was an invisible naked woman orbiting the moon would you be "agnostic" about that? Sure, TECHNICALLY you have to be, but seriously?

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Re: How many here are believers?
« Reply #101 on: March 29, 2011, 01:25:06 PM »
but religious people ARE idiots/wrong/dumb (take your pick)  :M

It takes the same level of faith to conclude that God does not exist as it does to conclude that God does exist.

So someone who doesn't believe in the tooth fairy is as crazy as someone who genuinely seriously believes in the tooth fairy and leaves their teeth under the pillow for it if they get knocked out?

I am not referring to behavior. I am saying that there is the same amount of proof for the existence of the tooth fairy as there is against the existence of the tooth fairy.





are you sure it is exactly the same ? Does it delicately balance itself out ?


There is an argument that non-existence wins, because there are many many more things that do not exist than DO exist.

So, I think there may be more reasons that god does not exist.




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Re: How many here are believers?
« Reply #102 on: March 29, 2011, 01:26:26 PM »
but religious people ARE idiots/wrong/dumb (take your pick)  :M

It takes the same level of faith to conclude that God does not exist as it does to conclude that God does exist.

So someone who doesn't believe in the tooth fairy is as crazy as someone who genuinely seriously believes in the tooth fairy and leaves their teeth under the pillow for it if they get knocked out?

I am not referring to behavior. I am saying that there is the same amount of proof for the existence of the tooth fairy as there is against the existence of the tooth fairy.





are you sure it is exactly the same ? Does it delicately balance itself out ?


There is an argument that non-existence wins, because there are many many more things that do not exist than DO exist.

So, I think there may be more reasons that god does not exist.





That is not self-evident.
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Re: How many here are believers?
« Reply #103 on: March 29, 2011, 01:27:57 PM »
there is infinite possibility in the nothingness

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Re: How many here are believers?
« Reply #104 on: March 29, 2011, 01:30:13 PM »
but religious people ARE idiots/wrong/dumb (take your pick)  :M

It takes the same level of faith to conclude that God does not exist as it does to conclude that God does exist.

So someone who doesn't believe in the tooth fairy is as crazy as someone who genuinely seriously believes in the tooth fairy and leaves their teeth under the pillow for it if they get knocked out?

I am not referring to behavior. I am saying that there is the same amount of proof for the existence of the tooth fairy as there is against the existence of the tooth fairy.





are you sure it is exactly the same ? Does it delicately balance itself out ?


There is an argument that non-existence wins, because there are many many more things that do not exist than DO exist.

So, I think there may be more reasons that god does not exist.





But there is no way to rationally prove the existence or non-existence of God, so in the end, it comes down to a question of faith.

Some people have faith in the existence of God and others have faith in God's non-existence, but neither have rational proof.