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Re: DNA Database?
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2011, 01:45:41 PM »
For those who think there is nothing to fear from the police and that they don't abuse their powers have a look at this site it's updated almost every day.  Your sure to find things that will make you think  http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/

But your cops sometimes go to jail for it. In Sweden, for instance, cops very rarely go to jail for something they do in their "service". One cop in Östergötland shot an unarmed thief in the back, so he died. He got 18 months for "gross causing of another person's death", i.e. he was out after 1 year. If the situation had been the other way around, the thief would have gotten 18 years at least.

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Re: DNA Database?
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2011, 01:56:06 PM »
For those who think there is nothing to fear from the police and that they don't abuse their powers have a look at this site it's updated almost every day.  Your sure to find things that will make you think  http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/

But your cops sometimes go to jail for it. In Sweden, for instance, cops very rarely go to jail for something they do in their "service". One cop in Östergötland shot an unarmed thief in the back, so he died. He got 18 months for "gross causing of another person's death", i.e. he was out after 1 year. If the situation had been the other way around, the thief would have gotten 18 years at least.

we can top that!
two cops grabbed a black guy at the welfare office, a student, who was cellphone-filming the staff as some sort of lame protest
he resisted arrest

so they choked him to death
there and then :]

theyre still on the job

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« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2011, 01:59:07 PM »
Oh, they have killed people here too and gotten away completely, but that's usually when the person resisted arrest or waved with a knife or something. The thief shot in Östergötland wasn't resisting or anything, he was actually just running away from the cop.

The best cop is a dead cop.

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Re: DNA Database?
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2011, 02:01:05 PM »
For those who think there is nothing to fear from the police and that they don't abuse their powers have a look at this site it's updated almost every day.  Your sure to find things that will make you think  http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/

But your cops sometimes go to jail for it. In Sweden, for instance, cops very rarely go to jail for something they do in their "service". One cop in Östergötland shot an unarmed thief in the back, so he died. He got 18 months for "gross causing of another person's death", i.e. he was out after 1 year. If the situation had been the other way around, the thief would have gotten 18 years at least.

They don't get punished much if at all.  There is a case in my town where it's going to trial only because there is video evidence that the cop was wrong he is still fighting it even though he killed two people while racing another cop going almost 100mph on town roads.  Very little happens to them and if they get fired they just go to another town
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Re: DNA Database?
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2011, 02:03:09 PM »
Personally I still don't give a shit. There are so many things that can go wrong in my life, many much more likely than someone setting me up for murder

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« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2011, 02:08:07 PM »
I got sawabed for DNA in the Marines, but they didn't actually test the DNA, they just kept the sample.

When I was getting out, I found the sample in my Service Record Book, removed it and destroyed it without anyone catching me. :ninja: :ninja: :ninja:  :headbang2:

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Re: DNA Database?
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2011, 02:33:25 PM »
I got sawabed for DNA in the Marines, but they didn't actually test the DNA, they just kept the sample.

When I was getting out, I found the sample in my Service Record Book, removed it and destroyed it without anyone catching me. :ninja: :ninja: :ninja:  :headbang2:

Did you leave your fingerprints.  :autism:
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Re: DNA Database?
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2011, 02:33:52 PM »
Personally I still don't give a shit. There are so many things that can go wrong in my life, many much more likely than someone setting me up for murder

That's a lot of peoples view till something goes wrong.  You of all people should be skeptical of this sort of thing ever think your transgenderedness could cause problems if say more conservative factions came into power and saw it as a morality issue as many of them do and decided that anyone with that gene or even the one for AS was less of a citizen
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« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2011, 02:36:17 PM »
The Muslim fundamentalists are already harassing Jews and gay people in Europe, so it's not that far away that Soph might think it is.

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« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2011, 02:42:17 PM »
I got sawabed for DNA in the Marines, but they didn't actually test the DNA, they just kept the sample.

When I was getting out, I found the sample in my Service Record Book, removed it and destroyed it without anyone catching me. :ninja: :ninja: :ninja:  :headbang2:

Did you leave your fingerprints.  :autism:

Nope, your fingerprints are placed on the inside cover of the SRB, so you can't take out the page.

I took a sharpie marker to my fingerprints so they'd be unusable!! ;)

I also stole my dental records (they gave them to me to make copies of, but I never brought them back), so if they had tried to recall me, they couldn't prove who I was or wasn't.  :evillaugh:

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Re: DNA Database?
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2011, 02:48:09 PM »
I got sawabed for DNA in the Marines, but they didn't actually test the DNA, they just kept the sample.

When I was getting out, I found the sample in my Service Record Book, removed it and destroyed it without anyone catching me. :ninja: :ninja: :ninja:  :headbang2:

Did you leave your fingerprints.  :autism:

Nope, your fingerprints are placed on the inside cover of the SRB, so you can't take out the page.

I took a sharpie marker to my fingerprints so they'd be unusable!! ;)

I also stole my dental records (they gave them to me to make copies of, but I never brought them back), so if they had tried to recall me, they couldn't prove who I was or wasn't.  :evillaugh:
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« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2011, 02:51:00 PM »
Corrupt cops can fix things anyway though - we can't refuse to use something that could potentially save lives, and would definitely catch some criminals (killers, rapists?) just because it can be abused. Alosrts of thigns can be abused
On that basis doing away with the requirement for a search warrant before police could kick in a person's door might be a good idea. After all if one is innocent then what harm is there in having police go through their closets, bills, computer discs etc?
I got sawabed for DNA in the Marines, but they didn't actually test the DNA, they just kept the sample.

When I was getting out, I found the sample in my Service Record Book, removed it and destroyed it without anyone catching me. :ninja: :ninja: :ninja:  :headbang2:

Did you leave your fingerprints.  :autism:

Nope, your fingerprints are placed on the inside cover of the SRB, so you can't take out the page.

I took a sharpie marker to my fingerprints so they'd be unusable!! ;)

I also stole my dental records (they gave them to me to make copies of, but I never brought them back), so if they had tried to recall me, they couldn't prove who I was or wasn't.  :evillaugh:
Military fingerprints are kept in FBI and DOD databases.

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Re: DNA Database?
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2011, 02:56:42 PM »
Corrupt cops can fix things anyway though - we can't refuse to use something that could potentially save lives, and would definitely catch some criminals (killers, rapists?) just because it can be abused. Alosrts of thigns can be abused
On that basis doing away with the requirement for a search warrant before police could kick in a person's door might be a good idea. After all if one is innocent then what harm is there in having police go through their closets, bills, computer discs etc?
I got sawabed for DNA in the Marines, but they didn't actually test the DNA, they just kept the sample.

When I was getting out, I found the sample in my Service Record Book, removed it and destroyed it without anyone catching me. :ninja: :ninja: :ninja:  :headbang2:

Did you leave your fingerprints.  :autism:

Nope, your fingerprints are placed on the inside cover of the SRB, so you can't take out the page.

I took a sharpie marker to my fingerprints so they'd be unusable!! ;)

I also stole my dental records (they gave them to me to make copies of, but I never brought them back), so if they had tried to recall me, they couldn't prove who I was or wasn't.  :evillaugh:
Military fingerprints are kept in FBI and DOD databases.

So, now the question is, did Scrap wear rubber gloves while tampering with his file? Or will he get busted?
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Re: DNA Database?
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2011, 03:03:41 PM »
We do have surveillance cameras in certain areas. Gasstations, schools, shops. Most of them are there under the regulation that the images have to be wiped within 24 hours after they have been taken, unless there has been a crime the images need to be used for in those 24 hours. Then the images can be saved, till no longer needed, and they will have to be destroyed after that. As far as I know, the deleting of the images almost happens automatically. Also there have to be signs telling you that there is camera surveillance.

I can live with that.

Now and then there are voices to make things tighter. 9/11 works well as a tool to frighten people and let them hand in their freedom.
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« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2011, 03:04:25 PM »
The Muslim fundamentalists are already harassing Jews and gay people in Europe, so it's not that far away that Soph might think it is.
Muzzies are scum.

So, now the question is, did Scrap wear rubber gloves while tampering with his file? Or will he get busted?
That doesn't matter. We carried our records around getting them signed and have the right to review them for accuracy and/or omissions. Furthermore you can expect that Yeoman, Disbursing Clerks, MAA's doing routine security clearance audits will have their prints in there as well. Unless Scrap were to be stupid enough to admit something they have nothing, statute of limitations aside.